Modeling with Differential Equations

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around modeling the motion of a falling body experiencing air resistance, specifically using differential equations derived from Newton's second law. Participants are exploring how to formulate the differential equation for velocity over time, considering the effects of gravity and air resistance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to apply Newton's second law to derive a differential equation, with some expressing confusion about incorporating air resistance into their understanding. Questions about the relationship between acceleration and velocity in the context of differential equations are also raised.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts to understand the problem and seeking clarification on specific concepts. There is an acknowledgment of the need to express the problem in a differential equation format, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention a lack of prior experience with problems involving air resistance, which may be influencing their understanding of the current problem. Additionally, there is a reference to a video about first-order differential equations, indicating varying levels of familiarity with the topic.

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Homework Statement



A falling body of mass m, encounters air resistance proportional to its instantaneous velocity, v. Use Newton's second law to find the DE for the velocity, v at time, t.

Homework Equations


I've been reading this section quite a bit and am still not getting it! I'd appreciate a simple breakdown of this problem.


The Attempt at a Solution



I know Newton's second law is F=ma, and a=[itex]\frac{dv}{dt}[/itex]= -g, in this problem. I've checked the answer in the back of the book to see if I can work it backwards and then maybe get an idea of what's going on, but I don't think I've dealt with air resistance, k, in any problems before. Even in my physics class.
 
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aaronfue said:

Homework Statement



A falling body of mass m, encounters air resistance proportional to its instantaneous velocity, v. Use Newton's second law to find the DE for the velocity, v at time, t.

Homework Equations


I've been reading this section quite a bit and am still not getting it! I'd appreciate a simple breakdown of this problem.

The Attempt at a Solution



I know Newton's second law is F=ma, and a=[itex]\frac{dv}{dt}[/itex]= -g, in this problem. I've checked the answer in the back of the book to see if I can work it backwards and then maybe get an idea of what's going on, but I don't think I've dealt with air resistance, k, in any problems before. Even in my physics class.
Newton's 2nd Law: The net force on a body of mass, m, is given by Fnet = ma .

For this problem Fnet = mg - kv , and is in the downward direction.
 
SammyS said:
Newton's 2nd Law: The net force on a body of mass, m, is given by Fnet = ma .

For this problem Fnet = mg - kv , and is in the downward direction.

I see. There was an image next to the question with those being opposite. Now to put ity into a differential equation form? I was watching a video about differential equations and there being a 1st ODE format using p(x) and q(x)?
 
aaronfue said:
Now to put it into a differential equation form?
What differential equation relates acceleration to velocity?
 

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