Modelling Acceleration to Constant Velocity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around modeling the transition of a car from acceleration to constant velocity, incorporating factors such as output power, drag, and rolling resistance. Participants explore how to create a unified formula that accounts for both phases of motion for programming in MATLAB.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to model the power output of a car during acceleration and at constant velocity, asking for a formula that integrates both phases.
  • Another participant questions the precision of the acceleration modeling, suggesting that basic equations of motion are currently being used.
  • A participant proposes using a simple model for final velocity as a constant for ease of implementation.
  • One participant suggests a specific formula, v(t)=v_{final}(1-e^{-kt}), to model the velocity over time, where "k" represents a constant related to drag and resistance.
  • A later reply provides a differential equation that underlies the proposed velocity formula, explaining the relationship between applied force, mass, and resistance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to model the transition from acceleration to constant velocity, and multiple viewpoints on modeling techniques are presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the simplicity of the model and the use of constants, but does not resolve the complexities of accurately modeling real-world dynamics.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in vehicle dynamics, programming simulations in MATLAB, or those exploring mathematical modeling of motion.

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Hi there,

I'm trying to create a computer model which takes into account output power in a car due to acceleration, drag and rolling resistance. The car will be accelerating for a set amount of time and I am able to model the power required for this with respect to time, as well as the power required for the rolling resistance and drag as it is accelerating.
However, after it reaches a certain velocity, its velocity will remain constant (the acceleration power will drop to zero and the drag and rolling resistance will then be constant). Is there anyway of fitting all of this into one formula for programming purposes so that when it reaches a certain velocity it will then remain constant?

Thanks for any help.
 
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Hmm..how precisely, have you modeled the acceleration?
 
Not very precisely at all. Just using basic equation of motions at a constant acceleration. I'm at a very basic level of the model so far and my brain isn't really working today. Basically, I'm trying to find a way to model the power output with respect to time incorporating both the accelerating and constant velocity sections using one equation. Will I need to use a differential equation?
 
If you just want a look-alike development (rather than something realistic), why not just model your final velocity as a constant?
 
I suppose I could do that. It's just I'm running it in MATLAB in respect to time (using a loop). So say I want to graph the output velocity at the end, it would be handy to have something that would give me a constant velocity after a certain number of iterations of the loop..
 
Well, use a play formula like the following then:
[tex]v(t)=v_{final}(1-e^{-kt})[/tex]
where "k" is a constant>0 modelling the effects of drag&resistance.
 
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Looks good, will give that a go. Thank you..
 
Note that this equation is, basically, the solution of the following differential equation:
[tex]\frac{dv}{dt}=F/m-kv[/tex]
where F/m is applied force per unit mass (considered for simplicity as a constant), and -kv a force per unit mass resistance term acting oppositely to the velocity.
We then have the relation:
v_final=F/(m*k)
 
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