Modern Algebra unified subgroup question

In summary: So we have shown that## b \in H \Rightarrow b \in K \Rightarrow H \subset K ##.I'm sorry, I think there may have been an error with the initial conversation. The topic of the conversation does not seem to match the content. Can you please provide the correct conversation for me to summarize?
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Homework Statement


If H and K are subgroups of G, show HUK is a subgroup of G if and only if H < K or K < H ( the < meaning that all the elements of H are in K or all the elements of K are in H).

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I believe the problem here is HUK might not be a closed group. Certainly all the elements of HUK are also in G.

If all the elements of H are in K, then hk is an element of HUK for all h,k.

If the intersection of H and K does not equal H or K, that means that hk may not be in HUK as it is not closed.

These are my thoughts so far. Am I on the right track here? How do I start turning this into a proof?
 
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Yes, you are on the right track. Suppose h is not an element of K and k is not an element of H. Can you show hk is not an element of H or K? Use proof by contradiction.
 
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There is a nice, helpful result that a subset H of a group G is a subgroup of G if for any a,b in H, ## ab^{-1}## is in H.
Now if a,b are either both in A or both in B, no problem, but consider what happens when a is in H and b is in K-H ( of course then we show we must have H subset K ).
 
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h is not an element of K and k is not an element of H. Then hk being an element of HUK is a contradiction because.. I'm lost >.<
 
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h is not an element of K and k is not an element of H. Then hk being an element of HUK is a contradiction because.. I'm lost >.<

Suppose hk is an element of K. Say hk=k'. Solve for h and think about it.
 
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Well, notice that subgroups are closed under the group operation. Let a in H, let b be in K-H and

## ab:=c \in H ## . Then ##b= a^{-1} c ## , so that b is the product of elements of H, and the product of

elements in H must be in H.
 

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