Moment of Inertia/ Kinetic Energy of ice skater

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The discussion revolves around the moment of inertia and kinetic energy of an ice skater performing a spin. The skater changes her moment of inertia by pulling her arms in, and participants are exploring the implications of this change on her kinetic energy.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are analyzing the relationship between moment of inertia and angular velocity, questioning how changes in one affect the other. There is a focus on conservation principles, particularly angular momentum, and how they relate to kinetic energy calculations.

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Some participants have provided calculations and reasoning regarding the changes in kinetic energy and moment of inertia. There is a recognition of the conservation of angular momentum, but questions remain about the source of energy if kinetic energy increases. The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations being explored.

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Participants are navigating the implications of the conservation of energy principle in the context of the problem, which may not have been fully resolved. There is also an emphasis on the constraints of the problem, such as the skater's initial conditions and the assumptions made about her motion.

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An ice skater starts a spin with her arms stretched out to the sides. She balances on the tip of one skate to turn without friction. She then pulls her arms in so that her moment of inertia decreases by a factor of two. In the process of her doing so, what happens to her kinetic energy?
-It undergoes a change by an amount that obviously depends on how fast the skater pulls her arms in.
-It decreases by a factor of two.
-It is zero because her center of mass is stationary.
-It increases by a factor of four.
-It decreases by a factor of four.
-It remains constant.
-It increases by a factor of two.

I know that Ki = (1/2)Iω2 , so isn't her Kf = (1/2)(I/2)(2ω2) = (1/2)Iω2 = Ki ?
Doesn't the angular speed increase by a factor of two as well?
My guess would be "It remains constant" (And I can only choose one)

Can anyone give me advice on this problem? Thank you

Kevin
 
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The KE = (1/2) I \omega^2. You know how I changes, but how does \omega change?

Hint: What's conserved?
 
Tell me if this makes sense...

Conservation of angular momentum Li = Lf

wi = omega_i
wf = omega_fLi = I*wi
Lf = I/2 * wf

2wi = wf

Now in terms of kinetic energy

Ki = (1/2)I*wi^2

Kf = (1/2)*(I/2)*wf^2 (I plug in my wf from above)
Kf = (I/4)(4wi^2)
Kf = I*wi^2

When I compare both Ki and Kf now, Kf is twice as large as Ki because it does not have a (1/2) in its equation like Ki does.

Is this correct?
 
Perfect!
 
You seem to have got it right...but before you continue on...remember the conservation of energy principle. If Kf is twice as large as Ki, where did that additional energy come from??
 
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