Moment of Inertia: Why Did Author Change Formula?

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The discussion centers on the calculation of the moment of inertia (MOI) using the Parallel Axis Theorem. The initial formula presented is I = (ab^3) / 12 + A(y^2), which calculates the MOI about the base of the figure. The author later modifies this to I = 1443333 - A(y^2) to adjust the MOI to the centroid of the entire figure, which is essential for accurate bending stress calculations. The centroid location is specified as 28.07 mm from the base, emphasizing the need for precise area and centroid calculations for each section involved.

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we know that the moment of inertia is given by the formula of I = (ab^3) / 12 + A(y^2) ... why in the second photo , the author make it as I = 1443333- A(y^2) ? what is the purpose of doing so , i don't understand ...

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foo9008 said:

Homework Statement


we know that the moment of inertia is given by the formula of I = (ab^3) / 12 + A(y^2) ... why in the second photo , the author make it as I = 1443333- A(y^2) ? what is the purpose of doing so , i don't understand ...

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In the first picture, the moment of inertia is being calculated about the base of the figure, which is why sections A, B, and C all have an A ⋅ y-bar2 value added to the MOI of each section about its own centroid.

However, the MOI of the entire figure about the base is not what you want to use when calculating bending stress, for example. You want to calculate the MOI of the entire figure about its own centroid. This is why the Parallel Axis Theorem is applied on page 2, to correct the MOI of the figure to its composite centroid location, as calculated on the first page. (y-bar for the figure is located 28.07 mm from the base).
 
SteamKing said:
In the first picture, the moment of inertia is being calculated about the base of the figure, which is why sections A, B, and C all have an A ⋅ y-bar2 value added to the MOI of each section about its own centroid.

However, the MOI of the entire figure about the base is not what you want to use when calculating bending stress, for example. You want to calculate the MOI of the entire figure about its own centroid. This is why the Parallel Axis Theorem is applied on page 2, to correct the MOI of the figure to its composite centroid location, as calculated on the first page. (y-bar for the figure is located 28.07 mm from the base).
normally , the total moment of inertia is I = I(center of mass) + A(d^2) , where d = distance from the centroid of entire mass to the axis,right? why n the 2nd photo , it's I = I(center of mass) - A(d^2)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_axis_theorem
 
chetzread said:
normally , the total moment of inertia is I = I(center of mass) + A(d^2) , where d = distance from the centroid of entire mass to the axis,right? why n the 2nd photo , it's I = I(center of mass) - A(d^2)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_axis_theorem
In the first page, the moments of inertia of the individual sections A, B, and C are calculated about the individual centroids of A, B, and C, respectively, and then transferred to the base of the by adding Ad2 terms. Once the total inertia is calculated about the base, then the moment of inertia must be corrected to the centroid of the whole figure by subtracting Ad2, where A is the total cross sectional area and d is the location of the centroid w.r.t. the base, in this instance d = 28.07 mm.

This is done so that the correct moment of inertia of the entire figure about its centroid is calculated and can then be used to determine bending stress.
 
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SteamKing said:
In the first page, the moments of inertia of the individual sections A, B, and C are calculated about the individual centroids of A, B, and C, respectively, and then transferred to the base of the by adding Ad2 terms. Once the total inertia is calculated about the base, then the moment of inertia must be corrected to the centroid of the whole figure by subtracting Ad2, where A is the total cross sectional area and d is the location of the centroid w.r.t. the base, in this instance d = 28.07 mm.

This is done so that the correct moment of inertia of the entire figure about its centroid is calculated and can then be used to determine bending stress.
cann we just minus the A(d^2) , where a = total area of figure when we are calculating the moment about the centorid of the entire figure ? there's no need to calculate the d one by one just like the author did in the first figure?
 
chetzread said:
cann we just minus the A(d^2) , where a = total area of figure when we are calculating the moment about the centorid of the entire figure ? there's no need to calculate the d one by one just like the author did in the first figure?
No. Each of the sections A, B, and C is a different area and centroidal location from the reference baseline.

You must calculate and sum the Io + Aidi2 for each piece before making the correction for the entire section.
 

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