Moment of intertia for rod with weight on one end

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The discussion revolves around deriving the moment of inertia for a long rod with a point weight attached at one end, specifically when the rod rotates about its midpoint. Participants are exploring how the presence of the weight affects the moment of inertia compared to the standard formula for the rod alone.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how to incorporate the point weight into the moment of inertia calculation, referencing the standard formula for the rod. Some participants suggest adding the moment of inertia of the point mass to that of the rod, while others clarify the distinction between mass and moment of inertia.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the calculation. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the correct method to combine the moment of inertia of the rod and the point mass, with some participants questioning assumptions about the formulas being used.

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Participants are working with specific values for the rod's length and mass, as well as the mass of the point weight. There is some confusion regarding the correct formula for the moment of inertia of the rod, as well as how to properly account for the point mass in the overall calculation.

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Hello,

I'm trying to derive the moment of inertia for a long rod with a point-weight on one end (the rod rotates through its midpoint). Could anyone offer any help? I know the formula for the rod is normally (1/2)ML^2, but I'm not sure how the weight on one end alters that.

Thanks!
 
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Add the moment of inertia of the point mass to that of the rod; that will give you the moment of inertia of the entire object.

FYI: I assume you meant that the moment of inertia of a rod about its center is (1/12)ML^2.
 
Doc Al said:
Add the moment of inertia of the point mass to that of the rod; that will give you the moment of inertia of the entire object.

FYI: I assume you meant that the moment of inertia of a rod about its center is (1/12)ML^2.

1/12, right. So I can just add the mass of the extra weight to the rod's moment of intertia?

Thanks for the help.
 
The length of the rod I have is 4.9m, with its mass 10.5kg. Without the weight, the moment of inertial is 21.00875. If the mass of the weight on the end is 5.18kg, would I be correct in saying the new moment of inertia is just 21.00875 + 5.18 = 26.18875kg?
 
smegmaster said:
So I can just add the mass of the extra weight to the rod's moment of intertia?
No. (For one thing, mass and moment of inertia are different kinds of quantities--with different units--so you can't add them.) Add the moment of inertia of the point mass to the rod's moment of inertia. (What's the moment of inertia of a mass about some point?)
 
Ahh, sorry. Moment of inertia for a point is its mass times the square of the radius. Thus the moment of inertia for the weight is 5.18*(4.9/2)^2 = 31.09295, bringing the total moment of inertia to 52.1017. Thanks!
 

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