Momentum and Energy Conservation of a Space Elevator

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of a space elevator, specifically focusing on the free-electron laser power beaming system and the associated conservation of energy and momentum. Participants explore theoretical aspects, potential engineering developments, and the implications of these principles in the context of a space elevator project.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the specifics of the free-electron laser power beaming system and its relation to energy and momentum conservation in the context of a space elevator project.
  • Another participant questions whether NASA is actively pursuing the engineering of a space elevator, suggesting it may still be a theoretical concept.
  • A different participant claims that NASA has indicated a timeline for the project, suggesting completion in about 15 years, although this is contested by others.
  • Some participants argue that the space elevator remains a fantasy, while others reference an article suggesting that advancements in certain areas could lay the groundwork for future developments.
  • There is a discussion about the conservation of momentum and energy, with one participant expressing confusion about how these principles apply to a space elevator, particularly in relation to elastic collisions and electromagnetic fields.
  • Another participant challenges the relevance of elastic collisions to the discussion, emphasizing the need for clarity in the questions being posed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the status of NASA's involvement in space elevator engineering, with multiple competing views presented regarding the feasibility and timeline of the project. The application of conservation principles in the context of the space elevator remains unresolved, with differing interpretations and levels of understanding among participants.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about NASA's plans and the specific technical details of the free-electron laser system. The conversation also reflects varying levels of familiarity with the underlying physics concepts.

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I want to know what exactly is the free-electron laser power beaming system that will be used in our future Space elevator and how the conservation of energy and momentum is associated with this project that NASA will launch. ?

Other info: I am taking grade 12 university level physics;
All answers are appreciated and thank you all for your assistance.
 
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Is NASA actually trying to engineer a space elevator? I thought the idea was purely theoretical at this point.
 
You are right. I worded it wrong. However, NASA did state that this project will be completed in about 15 years
 
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NASA has stated no such thing. The space elevator is but a fantasy at this point in time.
 
NASA did not state; but through an article I found was compiled someone who must be part of NASA? Unless if you think the article has false data:

Check it out: http://www.spaceelevator.com/docs/elevator.pdf

On page 2 he does state:
" Advances in these five areas over the next 10 to 20 years
will lay the foundation for future space elevator developments"

so sorry for the 15 year part (my mistake)
but the construction will start after about 20 years
so its not purely a fantasy right?
 
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What you quote doesn't say anything like that. It says that construct could in as soon as 20 years, not that it will.
 
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What you quote doesn't say anything like that. It says that construct could in as soon as 20 years, not that it will.


yes i realized my mistake and I would edit it but I cannot...

Either way. my main question of 'discussion' was how would the conservation of momentum and energy be applied in a space elevator.
 
What is it about the elevator that makes you think momentum would not be conserved? Are you referring to the problems of actually getting it in place?
 
Its not that I don't think it WONT be conserved but rather I do not understand how?

I mean what do elastic collisions got to do with an elevator that will move up in a very powerful electromagnetic field(i think).
 
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Who said anything about elastic collisions? You're going to need to be a lot more specific about what you are asking - we're not mind readers.
 

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