Momentum problem of blocks and bullet

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The problem involves a bullet passing through one block and embedding itself in another on a frictionless table, focusing on the conservation of momentum to find the bullet's speed before and after interacting with the blocks.

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and the equations used to calculate the bullet's speeds. There are attempts to clarify the calculations and the correct application of the formulas.

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Homework Statement



In Figure (1), a 3.50 g bullet is fired horizontally at two blocks at rest on a frictionless table. The bullet passes through block 1 (mass 1.18 kg) and embeds itself in block 2 (mass 1.85 kg). The blocks end up with speeds v1 = 0.540 m/s and v2 = 1.47 m/s (Figure (2)). Neglecting the material removed from block 1 by the bullet, find the speed of the bullet as it (a) enters and (b) leaves block 1.

Homework Equations


P(momentum)=mv
Variables:
mass of bullet = m
mass of block 1 = m1
mass of block 2 = m2
initial speed of bullet before entering = Vi
speed of block 1= v1
speed of block 2 = v2
speed bullet has after leaving block 1 = vf

The Attempt at a Solution


momentum is always conserved in a system so
mVi = mvf+m1v1 < --even after the bullet leaves the system, both the block and the bullet's momentum would be changed but still should add up to the starting momentum
Vi=(mvf+m1v1)/m

mVf = (m+m2)V2 <--because the block and bullet stick together
vf=(m+m2)V2/m

putting in numbers,
bullet's mass is 3.50g=0.0035kg
Vf = (0.0035+1.85/0.0035)*0.0035 = 778.47m/s
Vi=0.0035*778.47 + 1.18*0.540 /0.0035 = 960.52m/s
what did i miss here...
 

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dorkymichelle said:

The Attempt at a Solution


momentum is always conserved in a system so
mVi = mvf+m1v1 < --even after the bullet leaves the system, both the block and the bullet's momentum would be changed but still should add up to the starting momentum
Vi=(mvf+m1v1)/m

mVf = (m+m2)V2 <--because the block and bullet stick together
vf=(m+m2)V2/m

that is correct, but what do you mean by the following lines?

dorkymichelle said:
Vf = (0.0035+1.85/0.0035)*0.0035 = 778.47m/s
Vi=0.0035*778.47 + 1.18*0.540 /0.0035 = 960.52m/s


ehild
 
The numbers is where I did the calculations, i submitted them for hw, it's online and it said they were wrong
 
The numerical expressions you wrote for vi and vf are entirely wrong. The results are correct, but you need to round them to three significant figures.

ehild
 
I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused, did I plug in the numbers into the equation wrong? When I entered the answer in, they were rounded to 778m/s and 960 m/s
 
"Vf = (0.0035+1.85/0.0035)*0.0035 = 778.47m/s" This is wrong.

Correctly: ((0.0035+1.85)/0.0035)*1.47 = 778.47m/s"Vi=0.0035*778.47 + 1.18*0.540 /0.0035 = 960.52m/s" It is wrong. Write
Vi=(0.0035*778.47 + 1.18*0.540) /0.0035 = 960.52m/s.

The results seem correct, I got the same. Are you sure you input them at
at the proper place? 960 m/s for the speed the bullet enters the first block and 778 m/s for the speed it leaves?
 
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OOPS.. i did put it in the wrong place = /
thanks for your time!
 

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