Momentum, vector addition question

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving momentum and vector addition in the context of an inelastic collision between a car and a truck. The original poster presents their calculations and attempts to determine the initial common velocity after the collision.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of momentum principle, using both component analysis and the Pythagorean theorem to find the final velocity. Some participants question the arithmetic and suggest checking for rounding errors. Others provide alternative methods and discuss the importance of unit conversions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, verifying calculations, and discussing different approaches. There is acknowledgment of potential errors in unit conversion, which has affected the results. Multiple interpretations of the calculations are being explored without a clear consensus on the final answer.

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Homework Statement


A car with a mass of 1400 kg is westbound at 50 km/h. It collides at an intersection with a northbound truck having a mass of 2000 kg and traveling at 40 km/h. What is the initial common velocity of the car and trucks after collision if it's an inelastic collision?

Homework Equations


p = mv

The Attempt at a Solution


So I got this question wrong, but I can't seem to get the right answer no matter how I look at it. I think maybe I lost marks because I didn't use the method the teacher wanted (which is fine with me)?? Let me know guys.

m1v1 + m2v2 = (m1 + m2)vf

(1400kg)(13.888m/s) + 0 = (1400kg + 2000kg)(vfx)
vf = 5.7189... m/s

0 + (2000 kg)(12.5 m/s) = (1400kg + 2000kg)(vfy)
vf = 7.35294.. m/s

(5.7)2 + (7.3)2 = r2
vf = 9.3 m/s

tan-1(7.3 / 5.7 m/s)
= 52 N of W
= 128 degrees

I tried a different approach and found P(car) and P(truck), then P(combined), solved for Vf, but I got the same answer:

(1400 kg)(13.888 m/s) = 19443.2 kg m/s West
(2000 kg)(12.5 m/s) = 25000 kg m/s North
pythagorean theorem...
= 31670.77559 kg m/s
momentum is conserved so
31670.78 = (2000 + 1400) vf
vf = 9.3 m/s!
 
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Your method looks right, though I haven't checked your arithmetic.
 
Your method is correct - your answer is different from mine.
Note: do algebra before plugging numbers in, check for rounding errors.
 
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Hey, redid the algebra, got the same answer. What was your answer Simon Bridge?vfx = (1400 kg)(13.888m/s) / (1400kg + 2000kg)
=5.7189 m/s
vfy = (2000 kg)(12.5 m/s) / (1400kg + 2000kg)
= 7.35294 m/s

(5.71892 + 7.352942)1/2 = vf
 
Never mind, I converted 40km/hr to 12.5 m/s, should have been 11.1 m/s. That sucks, lost a lot of marks for it.

I got 8.7 m/s as my answer.
 
... and that was my answer.
I did the components in kmph and converted at the end... the fewer conversions you do the better.
 

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