Monatomic Ideal Gas volume expansion

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a monatomic ideal gas that expands isobarically to twice its original volume while performing 260 Joules of work. Participants are tasked with finding the heat added to the gas and the change in internal energy during this process.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between internal energy, work done, and the ideal gas law. There are attempts to derive equations related to internal energy and work, while questioning the assumptions made regarding the number of moles and temperature ratios.

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Several participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, discussing the application of relevant equations. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between variables, with some participants confirming the correctness of each other's reasoning without reaching a final consensus.

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Participants note the challenge of not knowing the number of moles and the implications of the constant pressure condition in the isobaric process. There is also a mention of the importance of not plugging in numerical values until the final steps of the calculations.

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[SOLVED] Monatomic Ideal Gas volume expansion

Homework Statement



A monatomic ideal gas expands slowly to twice its original volume, doing 260 Joules of work in the process.

(a)

Find the heat added to the gas if the process is isobaric.

(b)

Find the change in internal energy of the gas if the process is isobaric.


Homework Equations



[tex]U = \frac{1}{2}nRT[/tex] per degree of freedom

pV = nRT

pV = const.
p/T = Constant
V/T = const.

The Attempt at a Solution



I am not quite sure what to do for this equation. I now that the pressure is constant, and the the volue has doubled. and it has done 260 Joul;es of work in the process.

Any ideas where to start?

TFM
 
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Try to figure out the change in internal energy. You'll have to play around a bit. Assemble all the equations that apply to this problem and see what you can do.
 
Have I started this the right way.

The gas is monatomic, so

[tex]U = \frac{3}{2} nRT[/tex]

R is a constant, 8.31

[tex]U = \frac{3}{2} 8.31*nT[/tex]

However, we don't know thenumber of moles.

[tex]\frac{v_1}{T_1} = \frac{v_2}{T_2}[/tex]

We know the volume of v2 is twice that of V1

[tex]\frac{1}{T_1} = \frac{2}{T_2}[/tex]

This gives the ratio of temperatures as:

[tex]\frac{T_1}{T_2} = \frac{1}{2}[/tex]

Does this look right so far? If so, what could be a possible next step?

TFM
 
TFM said:
Have I started this the right way.

The gas is monatomic, so

[tex]U = \frac{3}{2} nRT[/tex]
Good.

Combine this with the ideal gas law and an expression for the work done.

R is a constant, 8.31

[tex]U = \frac{3}{2} 8.31*nT[/tex]
Don't plug in numbers until the last step.
 
Following on then,

[tex]pV = nRT[/tex]

[tex]n = \frac{pV}{RT}[/tex]

Insert into U ewquation,

[tex]U = \frac{3}{2} \frac{pV}{RT} RT[/tex]

Cancels to:


[tex]U = \frac{3}{2} pV[/tex]

The Work Equation:

[tex]W = p \Delta V[/tex]

thus,

[tex]p = \frac{W}{\Delta V}[/tex]

putting into the equation gives:

[tex]U = \frac{3}{2} \frac{W}{\Delta V}V[/tex]

Sincve the V is changing anyway:

tex] U = \frac{3}{2} W [/tex]

and we have the work.

Does this look right?

TFM
 
Sorry, that final equation hould have been:

[tex]U = \frac{3}{2} W[/tex][/B]

Is this correct?

TFM
 
I assume you mean:
TFM said:
Sorry, that final equation hould have been:

[tex]U = \frac{3}{2} W[/tex]

Is this correct?
Good! Now use it to find the heat added.
 
Would you use:

[tex]\Delta U = Q - W[/tex]

[tex]\Q = U + W[/tex]

?

TFM
 
Looks good to me.
 
  • #10
I put the values ion and the right answer did come out!

Thanks for your assistance, Doc Al, :smile:

TFM
 

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