Monotonically decreasing/increasing

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The discussion revolves around determining whether the function f(x) = -5 is monotonically increasing or decreasing based on graphical representation and definitions. Participants explore the implications of the definitions of monotonicity in the context of a constant function.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss how to justify the classification of the function as monotonically increasing or decreasing based on its plot. Questions arise about the definitions being used and the distinction between monotonically and strictly monotonically increasing/decreasing.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions of monotonicity, with some participants agreeing on the interpretations presented. Clarifications about how a flat graph can still be considered monotonically increasing or decreasing are being discussed, indicating a productive direction in understanding the concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of precise definitions in determining the behavior of the function, particularly in distinguishing between different types of monotonicity. The discussion highlights the potential confusion arising from everyday language versus mathematical definitions.

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Homework Statement



Plot each function and decide, based on the plot whether or not it is monotonically increasing/decreasing or strictly monotonically increasing/decreasing.

f(x) = -5

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The Attempt at a Solution



I can plot this function no problem, and show algebraically why it fits the definition of monotonically increasing and monotonically decreasing.

My question is, how do I justify this 'based on the plot'?

The next part of the question is to show it algebraically, but graphically I'm not really sure why my answer is correct...

Thanks for any help you can give.
 
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You really need to show more: what exact definitions are you using for "monotonically increasing/decreasing"? You seem to be making a distinction between monotonically increasing and strictly monotonically increasing, etc. Your answer could be right or wrong, depending on these details.
 
BOAS said:

Homework Statement



Plot each function and decide, based on the plot whether or not it is monotonically increasing/decreasing or strictly monotonically increasing/decreasing.

f(x) = -5

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



I can plot this function no problem, and show algebraically why it fits the definition of monotonically increasing and monotonically decreasing.

My question is, how do I justify this 'based on the plot'?

The next part of the question is to show it algebraically, but graphically I'm not really sure why my answer is correct...
The question distinguishes between monotonically increasing/decreasing and strictly monotonically increasing/decreasing. In the latter, the graph of the function would have to be trending up (mon. increasing) or down (mon. decreasing). From your plot, which should show a horizontal line, which you could characterize as both monotically decreasing and monotonically increasing.
 
Ray Vickson said:
You really need to show more: what exact definitions are you using for "monotonically increasing/decreasing"? You seem to be making a distinction between monotonically increasing and strictly monotonically increasing, etc. Your answer could be right or wrong, depending on these details.

I have attached the definitions I am using as a picture. I will explain how I'm using them to come to my result.

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From this, I say that the function f(x) = -5 is monotonically increasing and monotonically decreasing because for all x_{1}, x_{2} \in \mathbb{R} where x_{1} < x_{2}, f(x_{1}) \leq f(x_{2}).

Likewise, for all x_{1}, x_{2} \in \mathbb{R} where x_{1} < x_{2}, f(x_{1}) \geq f(x_{2}).
 
I figured that these were the definitions you were using. I agree with your answer.
 
BOAS said:
The next part of the question is to show it algebraically, but graphically I'm not really sure why my answer is correct.
Is your question essentially "How can a flat graph be considered increasing or decreasing?"
 
that is at the heart of it.
 
It's just how it is. As long as the function satisfies the definition, we say it's monotonically increasing or decreasing, even if it may run counter to our everyday sense of the words. Your intuition aligns with strictly monotonically increasing or decreasing.
 
BOAS said:
that is at the heart of it.
Note that the definitions for monotonically increasing and decreasing include the possibility that f(x1) = f(x2). IOW, they include the possiblity of graphs that are flat. The "strictly" definitions don't include this.
 

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