Monty Hall Problem: Win by Switching

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Monty Hall problem, a probability puzzle involving three doors behind which two goats and one car are hidden. Participants explore whether switching doors after one is revealed by the host is advantageous, focusing on the transfer of probabilities and the implications of the host's knowledge of the door contents.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that switching doors is always better, as the initial choice has a 1/3 chance of being correct, while the unchosen door has a 2/3 chance after one goat is revealed.
  • Others question how probabilities are transferred to the remaining unchosen door, suggesting that the probability of the chosen door does not increase after the host opens a door.
  • A few participants emphasize the importance of the host's knowledge in determining which door to open, arguing that this knowledge alters the probability dynamics.
  • Some express confusion about the necessity of making a decision to switch before the host reveals a door, suggesting that this changes the nature of the problem.
  • There are discussions about hypothetical scenarios, such as what would happen if the host chose a door randomly, and how that would affect the probabilities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of probability transfer in the Monty Hall problem. There are competing views on whether the probabilities of the chosen door change and how the host's actions influence the overall outcome.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the problem's phrasing and the conditions under which the host reveals a door may introduce additional complexities that are not fully addressed in the standard explanation.

  • #31
DaveC426913 said:
There is no such thing as a probability of an event that has already occurred. Care to rephrase? :wink:
Schrödinger's cat does not appreciate your jest.
 
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  • #32
Dave, I have modified your list to include probabilities. Some of these are conditional probabilities; for "1.1 Monty opens B (1)", (1) means this would always happen given that "1 You choose A"
There is an equation for the probability of each outcome. Winning outcomes are in bold.

1 You choose A (1/3)
1.1 Monty opens B (1)
1.1.1 You stay with A (1), You lose, probability = 1 * 1 * (1/3) = 1/3
1.1.2 You switch to C (1), You win, probability = 1 * 1 * (1/3) = 1/3

2 You choose B (1/3)
2.1 Monty opens A (1)
2.1.1 You stay with B (1), You lose, probability = 1 * 1 * (1/3) = 1/3
2.1.2 You switch to C (1), You win, probability = 1 * 1 * (1/3) = 1/3

3 You choose C (1/3)
3.1 Monty opens A (1/2)
3.1.1 You stay with C (1), You win, probability = 1 * (1/2) * (1/3) = 1/6
3.1.2 You switch to B (1), You lose, win probability = 1 * (1/2) * (1/3) = 1/6
or
3.2 Monty opens B (1/2)
3.2.1 You stay with C (1), You win, probability = 1 * (1/2) * (1/3) = 1/6
3.2.2 You switch to A (1), You lose, probability = 1 * (1/2) * (1/3) = 1/6

So, the total probability of winning with the strategy of staying is 1/6 + 1/6 = 1/3.
The total probability of winning with the switch strategy is 1/3 + 1/3 = 2/3.
 
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^ Read the second post at the top of this page and was going to post exactly what you did. Thank you.
 

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