News Moral America, where do we go from here?

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The discussion centers on the ongoing conflict in America between moral values and individual freedoms, highlighting issues such as gay marriage, abortion, and the teaching of evolution in schools. Participants debate the need for a common moral framework to guide laws, questioning whether these should be based on religious beliefs or broader societal benefits. The conversation emphasizes the importance of personal responsibility in parenting and the role of community standards in shaping moral perspectives. There is a call for tolerance and understanding, recognizing that not everyone agrees on what constitutes a moral issue. Ultimately, the dialogue reflects a desire for progress in addressing these complex moral dilemmas while respecting diverse beliefs.
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Originally posted by Njorl
Ah. You're probably right. My first thought was natural law=law of the jungle. I now vaguely recall that there is a set of concepts collectively known as natural law. My mistake.

Njorl
You're probably thinking Hobbes: "state of nature," ie anarchy. No biggie.
 
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  • #32
Originally posted by phatmonky
My amazing awful, horrible, vile, stances...


That 'creationist junk' has as much founding as evolution.

Actually, if you venture into the science forums, you'll see many intelligent threads on exactly why creationism is awful, horrible, and incredibly stupid bull****.

Teaching creationism in science class is like teaching holocaust denial in history class.
 
  • #33
Originally posted by Chemicalsuperfreak
Actually, if you venture into the science forums, you'll see many intelligent threads on exactly why creationism is awful, horrible, and incredibly stupid bull****.

Teaching creationism in science class is like teaching holocaust denial in history class.
Be fair...creationism isn't quite as bad as holocaust denial. However, neither subject deserves serious study in America's schools.
 
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  • #34
Originally posted by Zero
Right...so when are the Christian right going to quit whining and depending on political correctness to get away with what they do?

Got you rolls reversed here, I think. Political correctness is the whine of the liberal; almost exclusively.
 
  • #35
Originally posted by LURCH
Got you rolls reversed here, I think. Political correctness is the whine of the liberal; almost exclusively.
That is exactly the opposite of true. While the name may not be the same, the official osition of teh right-wing seems to be "if you say anything negative about our side, it is hate speech, and should be stopped". Conservatives are the masters of whining, from their lie that religious freedom is at risk from the ACLU, to their lie about "liberal media bias".
 
  • #36
Originally posted by LURCH
Got you rolls reversed here, I think. Political correctness is the whine of the liberal; almost exclusively.

I disagree. Political correctness is what republicans stick to so they don't say something overtly racist, sexist, etc. Not that the occassional freudian slip doesn't get out.
 
  • #37
Originally posted by Zero
Be fair...creationism isn't quite as bad as holocaust denial. However, neither subject deserves serious study in America's schools.

I disagree. The motives are somewhat different (although you'll often find the same people advocating both), if you judge each belief based on fact they're quite comparably from an intellectual standpoint.
 

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