More Math Courses vs a potential lower GPA

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The discussion revolves around the decision of whether to take more upper division math courses during a semester abroad, potentially impacting GPA, or to limit the number of courses to maintain a higher GPA. Participants explore the implications of course load on learning depth and graduate school admissions.

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  • One participant expresses concern about balancing course load and GPA, questioning whether a higher GPA with fewer courses or a broader range of courses with a lower GPA would be more favorable for graduate school applications.
  • Another participant suggests that the breadth of topics learned from taking more courses might be valued more than a high GPA alone.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that taking graduate courses and excelling in them could be more impressive than simply taking more undergraduate courses.
  • Some participants note that the depth of understanding may suffer with a heavier course load, as students might rush through material to keep up.
  • One participant acknowledges uncertainty regarding the difficulty of courses and grading standards at the prospective university, indicating that this could affect their performance.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on whether a higher GPA or a broader range of courses is more beneficial for graduate school applications. Multiple competing views remain regarding the value of depth versus breadth in learning.

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Participants express uncertainty about the teaching styles and grading rigor at the prospective university, which may influence their academic performance and decisions.

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Hi,

Right now i am on my fourth semester (sophomore) studying Mathematics at a rather small University. The math department here is not that rich couse-wise. In other words there are not a whole lot of Math courses one could take here. From the upper level math courses the only ones that they offer here are:

Intro to Real Analysis (first part: starting with basic concepts on sets, field of R, sequences, functions, continuity, an elementary topology of sets, and up to differentiation),
Abstract Algebra,
Linear Algebra,
Intro to Topology,
Foundations of Applied Math
Probability and Statistics.
(And i am also planning to do independent study in at least 2 more upper divison math courses)

Because of this, i am planning to go on an exchange program for a semester to Canada (next Fall). I was planning to take up to 4 upper division math courses in there. But, i fret that if i do so i might end up not having a rather impressive GPA. For what's worth, the gpa that i will get there will not be counted towards the overall gpa that i will be having here at my current university.

The courses that i am thinking of taking(depending at which university i will end up going) will roughly be:
Real Analysis
Approximation of functions by algebraic and trigonometric polynomials (Taylor and Fourier series); Weierstrass approximation theorem; Riemann integral of functions on Rn, the Riemann-Stieltjes integral on R; improper integrals; Fourier transforms.
Linear Algebra II
Finite dimensional real vector spaces and inner product spaces; matrix and linear transformation; eigenvalues and eigenvectors; the characteristic equation and roots of polynomials; diagonalization; complex vector spaces and inner product spaces; selected applications; use of a computer algebra system and selected applications.
Euclidean and Non-Euclidean Geometry I
Abstract Algebra
Further topics in group theory: normal subgroups and factor groups, homomorphisms and isomorphism theorems, structure of finite abelian groups. Rings and ideals; polynomial rings; quotient rings. Division rings and fields; field extensions; finite fields; constructability.
Complex Analysis

Or some slight variations of those

So my question is, for grad school, which would weight more: having less courses in math and an impressive gpa, or more courses and not so impressive? ( with impressive i mean 3.9 or 4.0, and not so impressive i mean a 3.0 only during that semester)

Regards!
 
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Which do you think indicates you've learned more? That's what they will be most impressed by.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Which do you think indicates you've learned more? That's what they will be most impressed by.

Well certainly getting more math courses in a semester is an indication that i will have learned a broader range of math topics, but i wouldn't know what to say about the depth of it!
I think having such a load, would prevent one(the average student) from going deeper in each topic, because one would need to kind of rush in order to keep up with all of them, wheras if you have only say 2 or at max 3 upper division courses, than you can kind of set your own pace and allot more time to study a particular topic!

What would your thoughts be pertaining to this issue?
 
From reading Krantz's survival guide for maths majors in the US, if you take also graduate courses and ace them then that will impress them more than taking more UG courses.
The courses you listed as far as I can tell, from the short description, are still UG courses.
 
sutupidmath said:
Well certainly getting more math courses in a semester is an indication that i will have learned a broader range of math topics, but i wouldn't know what to say about the depth of it!

That depends on if you get a A or B in the extra course or a C or D.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
That depends on if you get a A or B in the extra course or a C or D.

Well, this is something that i cannot know for sure, especially since i am not familiar with the way these math courses will be taught at the university i am planning to go and also don't know how hard the professors will be on grading.
However, if the above mentioned issues are somewhat compareable to the ones at the university i am currently at, then i don't think i would fall below a B (now i have A's in all my courses).

Regards!
 

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