Motion equation in the vertical plane along a cylinder

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The discussion revolves around deriving the motion equation for a mass sliding frictionlessly in a vertical plane along a cylindrical path of radius \( R \). The original poster presents equations of motion in a specific coordinate system and seeks clarification on the formulation of the motion equation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how to derive the motion equation from the provided equations. Some participants question the clarity of the original question and the interpretation of the motion equation presented.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the formulation of the motion equation and the context of the question. There is an acknowledgment that the provided answer is a valid reformulation of one of the equations, but further clarification on the original question is being sought.

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There is a note regarding the potential need for additional information, such as specifying the coordinate system used in the motion equation. The original poster's understanding of the problem setup appears to be under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


How do we find the motion equation and more specifically the motion equation of something with a mass $m$ in the vertical plane along a cylindrical path of radius $R$,

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(Translation: A point of mass $m$ slides frictionless in the vertical plane along a cylindrical path of radius $R$).

The components in each direction unitaries give the following equations in the Serret Fernet referential.

\begin{cases} mr\ddot\theta = mg \sin\theta (1)\\
mg\dot\theta^2=mg\cos\theta - ||F_r|| (2)
\end{cases}

Why do we have the following motion (kinematics?) equation answer?

$$\ddot\theta -\frac{g}{R}\sin\theta = 0$$

Homework Equations



\begin{cases} mr\ddot\theta = mg \sin\theta (1)\\
mg\dot\theta^2=mg\cos\theta - ||F_r|| (2)
\end{cases}

The Attempt at a Solution



I tought we had to find $$\vec a$$, $$\vec v$$ and $$x(t)$$ but it seems to be wrong according to the answer above...
 
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You have not stated what the given question is.
The answer you quote is a simple reformulation of your equation (1), so is certainly true.
 
My question was at the top: how do we find the motion equation and more specifically the motion equation of something with a mass $m$ in the vertical plane along a cylindrical path of radius R.
 
AntoineCompagnie said:
My question was at the top: how do we find the motion equation and more specifically the motion equation of something with a mass $m$ in the vertical plane along a cylindrical path of radius R.
Yes, but it is far from clear that is a translation of the question as asked. Are you saying the question is simply "find the equation of motion", and not perhaps "find an equation of motion" or "find the equation of motion in (a particular coordinate system)"?
The given answer is clearly a valid equation of motion in polar coordinates (though it should add r=R for completeness).
 

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