Exploring Motion in One Dimension: Understanding Ascent and Descent Times

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the motion of an object thrown upwards and the relationship between ascent and descent times, particularly in the context of air resistance. Participants explore the effects of air resistance on the time taken for ascent compared to descent.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the time of descent might be greater than the time of ascent.
  • Another participant asserts that descent is a time-reversed ascent and that total energy is conserved, implying equal times without air resistance.
  • A participant suggests that in general, ascent and descent times will be about the same, with differences arising from air resistance.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of specifying the situation, particularly regarding air resistance.
  • One participant explains that air resistance affects the speed of descent, resulting in less kinetic energy at the same height compared to ascent.
  • A later reply notes that the impact of air resistance varies significantly depending on the object's characteristics, such as shape and initial speed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus. There are competing views on the effects of air resistance and the relationship between ascent and descent times, with some arguing for equality in ideal conditions and others highlighting the complexities introduced by air resistance.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that the effects of air resistance can vary based on the object's shape and speed, and that certain scenarios may not be significantly affected by air resistance, which could influence the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students and educators in physics, particularly those exploring concepts of motion, energy conservation, and the effects of air resistance in introductory physics contexts.

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when we throw an object upwards why the time of descent is greater rhan time of ascent?
 
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It's not.

The object's descent is just a time-reversed ascent, because total energy is conserved.
 
ranjitnepal said:
when we throw an object upwards why the time of descent is greater rhan time of ascent?

What specific situation are you considering? In general, the two times will be about the same, with any difference being caused by air resistance acting differently on the ascent and the descent.
 
in case we consider air resistance
 
in case we consider air resistance
Don't you think it would have been a good idea to tell us that initially?

The speed coming down will be less than the speed going up because the potential energy will be the same at the same height but the total energy will be less because of energy lost to air resitance. So kinetic energy will be less at the same height coming down than going up.
 
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ranjitnepal said:
in case we consider air resistance

Even then, the details matter. A dense sphere (think cannonball) with an initial speed of a few tens of meters per second will not be measurably affected by air resistance - and this is also the problem you'll most often encountered in introductory physics classes. On the other hand, a spin-stabilized projectile that tumbles on the the way down, or a projectile whose initial velocity exceeds its terminal velocity in air will behave very differently on ascent and descent.
 

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