Motor Power, Torque & Battery Run Time for Miter Saw Tool

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The discussion revolves around the specifications and operational capabilities of a 15 Amp motor running on 120 VDC, specifically regarding its horsepower, torque calculations, and the feasibility of using a 20 Volt DC battery to power it. Participants explore theoretical aspects, practical implications, and the relationship between voltage, current, and motor performance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of the 5.5 HP rating for a motor of such small size, suggesting it may be a misrepresentation.
  • Another participant calculates that a 15 Amp motor at 120 VDC with 95% efficiency would yield approximately 2.3 horsepower, indicating potential discrepancies in horsepower ratings among manufacturers.
  • Concerns are raised about the ability of a 120 V motor to operate on a 20 V battery, with one participant arguing that the motor would likely not function at such a low voltage, estimating it would only produce about 2.8% of its power.
  • There is a suggestion that the current drawn by the motor is primarily determined by the supply voltage, implying that insufficient voltage would prevent the motor from operating effectively.
  • Another participant states that while it is theoretically possible to run the motor on a 20 Volt battery, the actual run time would depend on various factors, including motor efficiency and load conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the horsepower rating of the motor and its operational viability on a lower voltage battery. There is no consensus on the exact power output or the feasibility of using the 20 Volt battery, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that additional information, such as the weight of the saw blade and the distance from the motor center to the blade, is necessary for accurate torque calculations. The discussion also highlights the importance of motor efficiency in determining performance metrics.

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I saw 15 Amp motor which runs on 120 VDC with 5500 rpm [This motor was attached to Miter Saw tool]. I'm not sure what's HP of that motor, but I read 5.5 HP, however the size of motor is around 6 inch long and 4 inch diameter (Is it possible this small motor have 5.5 Hp? And can we calculate torque of the motor based on above known facts?).

Now my other question is : Can I run this 120 VDC motor using this 20 Volt DC with 3 Ah rating battery? If so how long I can run this motor using it?

Thank you.
 
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Well, 15A at 120V and 95% efficiency would be 2.3 horsepower.

I seem to remember that vacuum cleaner manufacturers play games with horsepower ratings, so it wouldn't surprise me if circular saw manufacturers did too.
 
May be that was mistake of Shop guy who put 5.5 HP sticker on it.

But other thing is can we run that motor using 20 V DC battery with 3 Ah rating? for 1 or 1 minutes?
 
A 120V motor will not work on 20V. I doubt whether, on only 17% of its rated voltage, it will even rotate at all. Basically, with 17% Volts, you could expect to get just 2.8% of its power (i.e. 17% of 17%) - even if everything else was perfectly pro-rata - and there is a threshold below which nothing will happen. You might expect about 2.5A to pass.

BTW, the current that the motor will pass is determined basically by the supply volts - too few supply volts will just not make enough current flow. A low voltage motor is designed with much fewer coils of fatter wire (as in a car starter motor).
 


I can provide a response to your questions about the motor power, torque, and battery run time for the miter saw tool.

Firstly, the motor power of a 15 Amp motor running on 120 VDC and with a speed of 5500 rpm is approximately 5.5 HP. This is a common measure of power for motors, and it is possible for a motor of this size to have 5.5 HP. However, it is also important to consider the efficiency of the motor, which can affect the actual power output.

To calculate the torque of the motor, we would need additional information such as the weight of the saw blade and the distance from the center of the motor to the blade. With this information, we could use the equation T = F x d to calculate the torque, where T is torque, F is force, and d is distance.

As for your second question, it is possible to run the 120 VDC motor using a 20 Volt DC battery with a 3 Ah rating. However, the run time will depend on the efficiency of the motor and the load it is under. The higher the load, the shorter the run time will be. It is difficult to estimate exactly how long the motor can run on this battery without knowing the specific details of the motor and the saw.

In conclusion, the 15 Amp motor on the miter saw tool has a power of approximately 5.5 HP, and the torque can be calculated with additional information. It is possible to run the motor with a 20 Volt DC battery, but the run time will vary depending on the load. I hope this answers your questions.
 

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