Mouse falls on rotating disc, find the work it needs to go to the center of it

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The discussion focuses on calculating the work required for a mouse with a mass of 0.05 kg to move from the edge of a rotating disc with a radius of 0.2 m and an angular speed of 33 revolutions per minute to the center. The key equations utilized include tangential speed (v = ω * r) and the conservation of angular momentum. Participants highlight the importance of correctly applying Pythagorean theorem and energy conservation principles to derive the work done. Clarifications on the rotational inertia and energy states of the mouse during its movement are also discussed.

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Homework Statement


mass of the mouse = 0.05 kg
disc's radius = 0.2m
disc's angular speed = 33 rev / min
assume that the angular speed ω doesn't change


Homework Equations



tangential speed = ω * r


The Attempt at a Solution



well, what i did was: drew the vectors, one was the tangential speed of the circle, another one was the radius which is the displacement of the mouse.
the vector connecting the ends of both these vectors is supposed to be the speed of the mouse

since tangential speed and radius are perpendicular, then with the Pythagoras's theorem the speed of the mouse is v^2 = vt^2 + r^2

then I calculated the work done by the change of energy
ΔE = [((1/2)mv^2 ) + Iω^2] - Iω^2 (since the omega doesn't change)

am I right, if not any suggestions. thanks
 
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How would you figure out the work for the mouse to climb to a height h? Would you factor in the speed that the mouse climbs the hill?
In the derived equation "v^2=vt^2+r^2", the LHS has units of speed while the RHS has units of distance (sort of) so there is something wrong with your reasoning here.
What usually helps is a clear description of the important part of the physics - eg:

The mouse starts out going in a big circle and finishes rotating on the spot.
What is the difference in energy of these two states?
 
conservation of angular momentum:

[itex]I[/itex]i[itex]\omega[/itex]i [itex]=[/itex] [itex]I[/itex]f[itex]\omega[/itex]f [itex](1)[/itex]

rotational intertia of mouse is

[itex]I[/itex]m [itex]=[/itex] [itex]mr^2[/itex] [itex](2)[/itex]

since at the end the mouse rotates at place, it shouldn't contribute anything so

[itex](I[/itex]disc+[itex]I[/itex]mouse[itex])\omega[/itex] = [itex]I[/itex]disc[itex]\omega[/itex]

can anyone help me I'm stuck here
 

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