Movies for hardcore sci-fi geeks

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The discussion highlights several notable independent science fiction films, with a particular focus on "Primer," a low-budget film that explores complex themes of time travel and causality. Despite its intricate plot, which some find confusing, it has garnered a cult following and critical acclaim, including the Grand Jury Prize at Sundance. Other films mentioned include "Metropolis," "Solaris," "Brazil," "The Man from Earth," and "A Scanner Darkly," with varying opinions on their narrative depth and adaptation quality. The conversation also touches on the merits of character-driven storytelling, as seen in "Firefly," and critiques the reliance on special effects in modern cinema, advocating for narratives that prioritize strong writing and conceptual originality. The participants express a preference for science fiction that adheres to realistic scientific principles, contrasting it with fantasy elements that can detract from the genre's integrity. Overall, the thread emphasizes the value of thoughtful storytelling in science fiction, regardless of budget or mainstream success.
  • #151


Huckleberry said:
There was some lazy writing in the finale, no doubt. Poof... gone. What? That and they all seemed to suddenly agree on this new choice that was made for them when throughout the series they could never agree on anything. All the time they spent on those useless flashbacks could have been used to actually tell a story using characters instead of pimping them out to send whatever message was intended. I don't care about the historical innacuracies since it is a fictional world. I think many people forget that in their criticisms. However, just because of the lazy writing I could have done without the last 20 minutes or so. I absolutely loved the series up until RDM groped me like a cheap date at the end of the night.

Baltar was one of my favorites. He was a loony, manipulative, genius plagued by overwhelming guilt and a need for survival. I don't think his character development was very credible, but I did find it entertaining. Really, who elects a mumbling madman to be president besides Americans?

I enjoyed Baltar on and off. I think all of the characters at some point or another had their moment. I liked Starbuck to begin with but started to not like her so much later. Saul Tigh though I started liking more and more as the series went on. From what I understand they intended it to be that way. They wanted the characters to be both likable and unlikable at different points. They certainly did a good job with that.
 
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  • #152


TheStatutoryApe said:
I enjoyed Baltar on and off. I think all of the characters at some point or another had their moment. I liked Starbuck to begin with but started to not like her so much later. Saul Tigh though I started liking more and more as the series went on. From what I understand they intended it to be that way. They wanted the characters to be both likable and unlikable at different points. They certainly did a good job with that.

Saul is awesome. His voice alone won me over from the start. Then he got even cooler when he got the eyepatch and started doing that wide-eye look all the time. I think he was jealous when Felix los his leg. Until that point nobody could touch Saul in a pirate contest.

Some of the charaters, like Baltar and Tyrol and Saul, I enjoyed their shifting personalities. I hated Starbucks change towards the end of the 3rd season. She was crazier than Baltar. Adm. Adama and Roslyn progressed pretty much as I expected. I never really liked Lee's personality. Hits a little too close to home maybe. Boomer and Athena were also favorites. I never liked Felix, but it also seemed to me that he got shafted. Well, he got what he deserved, but before that he had been loyal and hardworking and completely ignored. I just wanted to wrap Dualla up in a blanket and smuggle her off the Galactica. She's mine, Lee! Go explore the steep side of a cliff. We've got a planet to repopulate.

I wonder what happened to Boxey? Boomer rescued him off Caprica in the very beginning. Boxey was with Starbuck in the ready room when Saul came in and said "Where are your parents?" Boxey's last words were "Dead. Where are yours?" I'm guessing Saul had him spaced halfway through the first season.
 
  • #153


Huckleberry said:
I just wanted to wrap Dualla up in a blanket and smuggle her off the Galactica. She's mine, Lee! Go explore the steep side of a cliff. We've got a planet to repopulate.
I know what you mean! Very lovely woman.
Never really liked Lee much either, though I think he still had his moments.
Huck said:
I wonder what happened to Boxey? Boomer rescued him off Caprica in the very beginning. Boxey was with Starbuck in the ready room when Saul came in and said "Where are your parents?" Boxey's last words were "Dead. Where are yours?" I'm guessing Saul had him spaced halfway through the first season.
I completely forgot about him. I never saw the original series so I didn't recognize him as anyone important anyway.
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Boxey_(RDM )
 
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  • #154


Has anyone else here watched the Sci-Fi channel's miniseries, Taken?
 
  • #155


Ivan Seeking said:
Has anyone else here watched the Sci-Fi channel's miniseries, Taken?

I watched it on CBC (or CTV; I forget) off the air when it first came out, but I can't remember much of it. I'll rent it sometime and watch it over again.
 
  • #156


Wow! No one else? I think most Sci-Fi fans here would enjoy it. If you happen to be knowledgeable about all of the facts, claims, theories [wild and prosaic], and myths, associated with the UFO phenomena, the series can be appreciated for the clever mix of history and legend. But, imo, the series is a qualified success in its own right. I would rank it as the best attempt to explore the most exotic ET claims ever seen on TV. My biggest criticism is that while the story is often rather brutal [there are a few fantastically cold, hard characters] the occasional narration and parts of the story drip sentimentality. Also, many of Spielberg’s techniques are easily recognizable from movies like CE OTTK. For example, he has beaten the “crowd gazing in awe at bright light” bit to death. Many CE overtones are pretty obvious. I even noticed in one scene that the same Universal Studios "rural road with rustic fence" used in CE, was used in Taken.
 
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  • #157


This was a nice surprise: Timecrimes

A Spanish film about an accidental time traveler, while not nearly as logically challenging, it has much the same flavor as Primer. After about an hour I nearly lost interest, but then the plot was salvaged by an unexpected turn of events.

After accidentally traveling to the past, Héctor (Karra Elejalde) meets himself and triggers a series of mysterious events that lead to a shocking crime. The gripping time-travel story -- at once deeply intricate and easy to follow -- also stars Candela Fernández. Oscar-nominated short-film director Nacho Vigalondo makes his feature debut with this finely crafted sci-fi thriller.
- netflix [available for viewing online]

I should add that some parts of the plot were rather artificial, including the requirement for nudity. But given the quality of the nudity I decided to live with it. :biggrin:
 
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  • #158


I've not seen Taken. I think the couple of scenes I saw from that show Roswell turned me off of alien conspiracy shows. I figured the genre probably died after X-Files.


Have you seen Eureka on the Scifi.. erm.. SyFy channel Ivan? Its hokey but pretty neat. They have at least some of the episodes on Hulu. Most of the episodes are more or less stand-alone but each season has an overarching metaplot that you might miss out on if you don't watch all of them.

For anyone who hasn't watched it is about a secret small town (called Eureka) in the Pacific NorthWest populated by inventors and scientific genuises all working for a big government contracted corporation working on the cutting edge of scientific research and paving the way for new technologies. There is a lot of silly stuff in the show but they mostly try to give a nod to actual scientific ideas though their representations of them in the show are hardly realistic. The main character is contracted as Sheriff of the town though, unlike pretty much everyone else in the town from the mechanics to the baristas, he is fairly illiterate when it comes to science and technology. Pretty much every episode involves some strange incident or crime (that may well destroy the whole town! lol) that the sheriff is eventually able to figure out even though all of the genuises are befuddled. Its hokey but fun.


edit: oh and I will have to look up that Timecrimes movie. It looks very interesting.
 
  • #159


TheStatutoryApe said:
I've not seen Taken. I think the couple of scenes I saw from that show Roswell turned me off of alien conspiracy shows. I figured the genre probably died after X-Files.

Not at all. This is a whole different animal.


Have you seen Eureka on the Scifi.. erm.. SyFy channel Ivan?

Yes. I haven't followed it closely, but it has its moments. :biggrin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4veXeLkK9g
 
  • #160


Huckleberry said:
Really, who elects a mumbling madman to be president besides Americans?
*cough* Boris Yeltsin?
 
  • #161


dorlomin said:
*cough* Boris Yeltsin?
I was being facetious. Nothing serious there.
 
  • #162


I really liked Roswell. :redface:
 
  • #163


Danger said:
I really liked Roswell. :redface:

Do you mean the TV show with the kids, or are you referring to your last vacation? :-p


I never would have even looked except that it came on right after something else I would watch. After a while it started to capture my interest. In the end I rather enjoyed the show; esp the tongue-in-cheek elements.

Did you ever happen to notice who produced the show?
 
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  • #164


Ivan Seeking said:
Did you ever happen to notice who produced the show?

:smile: for the first comment, although I chose not to quote it.
No, I knew at the time, since I always read the credits, but I can't recall now who it was. (It would take me a tenth of a second to find it on Google, but I'll leave it up to you to enlighten me. You're slower, but more entertaining.) I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be Stephen J. Cannell, because it has some of his charactistics, but it seems a bit light for him.
 
  • #165


Lazy. :biggrin:

Jonathan Frakes was the executive producer.
 
  • #166


Ivan Seeking said:
Jonathan Frakes was the executive producer.

Oh, ****... now I remember. I feel so ashamed at having forgotten. (Really, I did know that, but it escaped me.) I remember now that he actually directed a few of the episodes, and he guest starred in one that involved a Star Trek Next Generation audition session in which one of the Roswell stars (Brendan Fehr?) tried out for a role and crashed big-time.
I bow before you for having bested me.
 
  • #167


Danger said:
Oh, ****... now I remember. I feel so ashamed at having forgotten. (Really, I did know that, but it escaped me.) I remember now that he actually directed a few of the episodes, and he guest starred in one that involved a Star Trek Next Generation audition session in which one of the Roswell stars (Brendan Fehr?) tried out for a role and crashed big-time.
I bow before you for having bested me.

Heh, I never saw that one.

I really like tobasco; put it on everything I can. That is why I could relate to the characters. :biggrin:
 
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  • #168


I'm allergic to vinegar, so I tend to avoid Tabasco. It's not so much an allergy as an intolerance. I have no problem with it, as long as I don't smell it. To me, it's the same sort of experience as sniffing ammonia, but of a higher magnitude. One whiff, and my respiratory tract locks up instantly. If I can get it into my body without smelling it, there's no problem. In fact, Prairie Fires are a great shooter. And one that I invented about 25 years ago, when I was working in the cowboy bar, is called 'aftershock'. It's half and half Red Sourpuss and tequila, with about 1/2 teaspoon of Tabasco to get your attention. Now that I finally got to go the the local Mexican restaurant with my cousin (W would never go, because KFC is hot for her), I realized that there's habenero (sp?) sauce available in town. I think that I might swap that in for the Tabasco. I expected it to be hot, so I poured a little puddle on my plate and dipped my quesedia (sp?) bit in it tentatively at first. Then I figured, what the hell, and splashed it all over. The stuff isn't all that hot.
 
  • #169


Looks like District 9 is a worthy sci-fi movie

The movie is amazing, it's everything I never expected.
 
  • #170


waht said:
Looks like District 9 is a worthy sci-fi movie

The movie is amazing, it's everything I never expected.

I was pretty impressed with it too.
 
  • #171


I believe that if my budget will allow, I might go to see that in the theatre. Usually, for anything other than Marvel releases, I wait until it's in the cheap section of the video store and rent it. (And with the Marvel ones, I always buy a copy once they get down to $10 or so in the stores. Not the original Hulk, though... I know why they made it the way that they did, trying to evoke the old King Kong thing, but it isn't worth buying. I'm not saying that I didn't like it, but I have financial priorities. Also, Daredevil and Electra both kinda sucked. I sure as hell have at least one copy of every X-Men, Spider-Man and Fantastic Four movie.)
 
  • #172


Danger said:
Also, Daredevil and Electra both kinda sucked.
Daredevil was horrid. They are apparently making a part two. :-/ Affleck is crazy.
Considering Favreau's connection to Daredevil I was worried he was going to screw up Ironman. He did a damn fine job though. He even had a myspace group where he took comments and suggestions from fans. I'm not sure if it was my comment that gave him the idea or not but I had suggested the use of rapid prototyping. I also suggested using carbon nano materials but he decided to stick with the heavy metal alloys that don't seem to make much sense.
 
  • #173


Super cool, Stats. I absolutely loved Ironman, and am going to buy a copy as soon as it shows up in a store that I have access to. (Screw the $10 thing; I'll go up to $25 for that.) Maybe I'll get W to drive me into the city before she moves away at the end of the month. As much as I prefer to keep it Canuck, I'm in no position to argue with WalMart's prices.
I'd never heard of Robert Downey Jr. as anything other than some sort of bratty Hollywood troublemaker until the movie came out, but he absolutely nailed Tony Stark. It was a brilliant bit of casting. The script also conformed to the Marvel concept of some slapstick comedy done in a perfectly logical progression of events (eg: first test flight).
I just have to make sure that traveling to the city involves a lot of other activities, such as grocery shopping, picking someone up at the bus station, etc., or else the gasoline cost will exceed the savings over buying it here.
 
  • #174


I'm not too familiar with Iron Man, but wasn't Tony Stark supposed to be paralyzed? And what was the deal with that thing stuck in his heart? Was that from the comics? It looks like they changed the origin of the character to match the script, rather than following the Marvel comic conception. I still don't understand how he can fall out of the sky and crash into the ground and not have to be poured out of that metal suit of his. I also liked Downey's performance. I thought it was OK overall, but I'm kinda tired of so many super-hero comic movies lately.

Danger, have you seen 'Watchmen'? I really liked that comic book movie. The good guys aren't so good, and the bad guys aren't so bad. They've got more than cutesy character flaws to make them appear human. They operate on their own personal agendas, and not so much on stereotypical concepts of what is right/wrong. That made it interesting for me. Rorschach is my favorite character.

I'll be checking out 'District 9' soon. I'm glad some people have enjoyed it. That raises my hopes a little.
 
  • #175


I can't believe no one said this

doctor who!
 
  • #176


Huckleberry said:
I'm not too familiar with Iron Man, but wasn't Tony Stark supposed to be paralyzed? And what was the deal with that thing stuck in his heart? Was that from the comics? It looks like they changed the origin of the character to match the script, rather than following the Marvel comic conception. I still don't understand how he can fall out of the sky and crash into the ground and not have to be poured out of that metal suit of his. I also liked Downey's performance. I thought it was OK overall, but I'm kinda tired of so many super-hero comic movies lately.

Danger, have you seen 'Watchmen'? I really liked that comic book movie. The good guys aren't so good, and the bad guys aren't so bad. They've got more than cutesy character flaws to make them appear human. They operate on their own personal agendas, and not so much on stereotypical concepts of what is right/wrong. That made it interesting for me. Rorschach is my favorite character.

I'll be checking out 'District 9' soon. I'm glad some people have enjoyed it. That raises my hopes a little.

The thing in Stark's heart was added. I never read a whole lot of Ironman comics but I know that the history is quite long and has gone through a few major changes so it would probably be hard to figure out what to go with. Stark wasn't originally paralyzed. I think that happened some time in the 90s. Overall I think that they stuck pretty well to the original Ironman character if not so much the original story. James Rhodes and Pepper Potts are both from the comics. Stark was an alcoholic. Even the not so realistic bits are typical to the comic book.

I never read the Watchmen comics but I enjoyed the movie. Rorschach is definitely the best.
 
  • #177


I haven't seen Watchmen; in fact, I never heard of them until the movie came out.
The origin of Iron Man in the movie is almost exactly the same as in the original comic, except that it was moved from Viet Nam to Afghanistan. The mentor who gave his life to allow his escape, and Rhodes, were in the first comic book. The evolution of the suit, though, went through about a dozen versions in the books. He even had one for space travel and one for underwater use.
The reason for the magnet in the chest of the suit is that he has a piece of shrapnel impinging upon his heart, which will migrate and kill him if the magnet isn't there to hold it in place. In the comics, he eventually had it surgically removed.
 
  • #178


Danger said:
The reason for the magnet in the chest of the suit is that he has a piece of shrapnel impinging upon his heart, which will migrate and kill him if the magnet isn't there to hold it in place. In the comics, he eventually had it surgically removed.

That actually was in the comic books?
 
  • #179


TheStatutoryApe said:
That actually was in the comic books?
Absolutely. The origin in the movie was quite faithful to the comics.
 
  • #180


There was another mini-series that I enjoyed for its creativity - The Lost Room

The Lost Room is a science fiction television miniseries that aired on the Sci Fi Channel in the United States. The series revolves around the titular room and some of the everyday items from that room which possesses unusual powers. The show's protagonist, Joe Miller, is searching for these objects to rescue his daughter, Anna, who has disappeared inside the Room. Once a typical room at a 1960s motel along U.S. Route 66, the Lost Room exists outside of normal time and space since 1961, when what is only referred to as "the Event" took place...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Room
 
  • #181


DaveC426913 said:
Absolutely. The origin in the movie was quite faithful to the comics.
Wow, I'd never heard of that before. My comic book geek friends and I all thought that was new.

Ivan Seeking said:
There was another mini-series that I enjoyed for its creativity - The Lost Room


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Room

This was a very good mini series. When it was over I wanted it to keep going. I kind of hoped it would get picked up for a regular show.
 
  • #182


TheStatutoryApe said:
This was a very good mini series. When it was over I wanted it to keep going. I kind of hoped it would get picked up for a regular show.

I had the same reaction, but a series would probably be tough to do well. Pretty soon we would have have a secret vault filled with many new objects beneath the room, put there by aliens who detected the space-time event. It turns out that he didn't rescue his real daughter, rather one from a parallel world who must return in order to prevent their world from non-existence. We would discover wonderful new objects like, a vacuum cleaner that makes people's heads explode, and vice grips that spaghettify people... And it really all started with Kennedy's assasination.

...for example. :biggrin:
 
  • #183


I've never heard of 'The Lost Room', but it does remind me of one of my favourite shows: 'Lost'. It definitely has SF elements to it. It hasn't been on for quite a while now, but I gave up watching it on TV years ago anyhow. If you miss a couple of minutes of one episode, you're screwed.
My former boss and I both watched it (but I taped it and then watched while getting ready for work the next day) and discussed the last episode at work. Three years ago, she gave me seasons 1 & 2 on DVD for X-mas, then season 3 two years ago. The company went out of business at the end of October, and I've been unemployed ever since, but my wife picked up the slack and gave me season 4 this year. It makes so much more sense when you can watch a dozen episodes all in a row, rather than try to remember stuff that happened last week. I'm really looking forward to the next DVD box to see what happens next. (And don't anybody dare post any spoilers... )
And before anyone mentions it, I do know that you can watch it on-line. I just happen to prefer a larger screen for entertainment. (Not to mention surround-sound.)Hey, Stats... here's a site that you might enjoy. http://marvel.com/universe/Main_Page

edit: You can also look up any Marvel character on Wikipedia and get a pretty decent biography.
 
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  • #184


There were a few of the second Outer Limits series that deserve honorable mention. I think this was from OL, but it could have been the second Twlight Zone series. Since it was a TV show episode, and not a movie, I'll just throw out a spoiler. I'd never seen or read a plot quite like it: Not sure about all of the details anymore, but a woman is a renegade [psychological freedom fighter, you might say] illegally helping people to recall memories from past lives, with her "special gift". Eventually she is caught by the government. But instead of being imprisoned or killed as she expected, they show her why the "art" of past lives recall is banned. It turns out that many or most psychological problems can be tracked to experiences from past lives. If these memories are avoided - locked away in the subconscious - people are much happier and mentally healthy. The episode ends with her counseling people under the pretense of standard therapy, but using hypnosis covertly to help people forget past lives, rather than remember them.

I thought that was pretty clever.
 
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  • #185


Ivan Seeking said:
There were a few of the second Outer Limits series that deserve honorable mention.

I was particularly fond of the episode which featured Alyissa Milano topless. :-p
 
  • #186


Danger said:
I was particularly fond of the episode which featured Alyissa Milano topless. :-p

That was also a pretty good episode, but not particularly creative. They are all pretty good, but there was one that I thought was excellent. I will have to find the correct episode. The SandKings was good, as was The Sentence.
http://epguides.com/OuterLimits_1995/
 
  • #187


Ivan Seeking said:
That was also a pretty good episode, but not particularly creative. They are all pretty good, but there was one that I thought was excellent. I will have to find the correct episode. The SandKings was good, as was The Sentence.
http://epguides.com/OuterLimits_1995/

I don't care about the creativity; I just like her tits. (Did the US get an edited version?)
There sure are a hell of a lot of Bridges' in that SandKings episode. I can't say as I particularly remember seeing it, but the original short story was serialized in Omni magazine and I read it. It was right good. (George R.R. Martin was the author, if memory serves.)
One thing that stood out in my mind, and might weird out a few people, is the first episode of the new Twilight Zone. It was a one-man show ('Shatterday', written by Harlan Ellison) staring the currently unknown Bruce Willis. That SOB can act when given a chance. He should have gotten an Emmy for that performance, and I believe was nominated for a couple of different awards. Then he was never seen again until 'Moonlighting' came out a few years later.
 
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  • #188


I think District 9 deserves a plug. Lot's of holes in the story, but enjoyable none-the-less.

Also 'Moon' for that matter. Worth the time.
 
  • #189


Ivan Seeking said:
I had the same reaction, but a series would probably be tough to do well. Pretty soon we would have have a secret vault filled with many new objects beneath the room, put there by aliens who detected the space-time event. It turns out that he didn't rescue his real daughter, rather one from a parallel world who must return in order to prevent their world from non-existence. We would discover wonderful new objects like, a vacuum cleaner that makes people's heads explode, and vice grips that spaghettify people... And it really all started with Kennedy's assasination.

...for example. :biggrin:

Hey, that sounds a little like Warehouse 13 - a new SyFy channel show - except for the alien part (I think?).
 
  • #190


I keep hearing about District 9. I should probably make sure to see it at some point. I'm not really even sure what it is about. Don't worry about telling me though, I tend to enjoy movies much more when I have no idea what they are about before seeing them.


As far as TV shows go, Journeyman was actually quite good. Its sort of a Quantum Leap rip off except that the main character (Dan) is unpredictably shifted, physically, back and forth between his own time and some other time. The basic idea is the same though, he travels to other points in time to change small events and improve people's lives. A significant portion of the show deals with how this effects his family life, having as wife and kid, and how he tries to prove it or hide it from different people in his life some of which think he is drinking or doing drugs (lost time, not showing up when he is supposed to, telling strange stories). The writing and dialog are pretty clever in my opinion. One of the neat signatures of the show was that when ever Dan showed up in some other time there would be a radio nearby playing a song that came out that same year.
 
  • #191


WhoWee said:
Hey, that sounds a little like Warehouse 13 - a new SyFy channel show - except for the alien part (I think?).

That looks like it could be an interesting series. The Lost Room though is a bit different. It revolves around normal everyday objects that have been mysteriously imbued with odd powers, some useful and others just sort of silly. For instance one of the objects that becomes somewhat important is a bus ticket that will teleport you to a specific place on a highway out in the middle of the midwest somewhere. I think it was the midwest, I don't remember anymore. All of the objects are related and come from the same place.

If you like that other show then I am pretty sure you would enjoy The Lost Room.
 
  • #192


TheStatutoryApe said:
the main character (Dan) is unpredictably shifted, physically, back and forth between his own time and some other time. The basic idea is the same though, he travels to other points in time to change small events and improve people's lives.

As if I you were talking about The butterfly effect :smile:
 
  • #193


Borek said:
As if I you were talking about The butterfly effect :smile:

Ah, I remember hearing about that movie but never saw it. Er.. are you referring to the movie? or just the principle? lol

It is definitely similar to the Butterfly Effect. He is usually transported to multiple different times through a persons life during an episode and in each instance is meant to change some particular event which ultimately leads to some desired outcome which may or may not be foreseeable.
 
  • #194


TheStatutoryApe said:
Er.. are you referring to the movie? or just the principle? lol

Movie :smile:
 
  • #195


TheStatutoryApe said:
I keep hearing about District 9. I should probably make sure to see it at some point. I'm not really even sure what it is about. Don't worry about telling me though, I tend to enjoy movies much more when I have no idea what they are about before seeing them.


As far as TV shows go, Journeyman was actually quite good. Its sort of a Quantum Leap rip off except that the main character (Dan) is unpredictably shifted, physically, back and forth between his own time and some other time. The basic idea is the same though, he travels to other points in time to change small events and improve people's lives. A significant portion of the show deals with how this effects his family life, having as wife and kid, and how he tries to prove it or hide it from different people in his life some of which think he is drinking or doing drugs (lost time, not showing up when he is supposed to, telling strange stories). The writing and dialog are pretty clever in my opinion. One of the neat signatures of the show was that when ever Dan showed up in some other time there would be a radio nearby playing a song that came out that same year.

'District 9' was ok, which was much better than I expected. I was glad they didn't overplay the political aspect. Not a bad job at all. They left plenty of room for a sequel too. I'll probably see that too.

I really liked 'Journey Man'. I was upset when it got cancelled. So many great SF series get canned after their first season while they are still going strong. Yet shows like 'Heroes' or 'Lost' start out with a bang and end up treading water after the first or second season and they continue on. The decision to keep a show on the air is all about advertising and marketing and only loosely based on show quality. Once in a while some SF shows squeek by like BSG or Babylon 5, but most fade away like 'Greatest American Hero' or 'Tales of the Golden Monkey'. 'Journey Man' deserved a second season, at least.
 
  • #196


TheStatutoryApe said:
That looks like it could be an interesting series. The Lost Room though is a bit different. It revolves around normal everyday objects that have been mysteriously imbued with odd powers, some useful and others just sort of silly. For instance one of the objects that becomes somewhat important is a bus ticket that will teleport you to a specific place on a highway out in the middle of the midwest somewhere.

It would have been fun to help write that aspect of the story - the objects. It was also a unique idea in SF, as far as I know. It doesn't qualify as hard SF by any means in that no attempt was made to explain the objects and their particular powers [at least not as far as I can remember], but it was fun.
 
  • #197


Cube 2 is fun. Cheesy, but fun. no need to see Cube 1 to enjoy it.
 
  • #198


Danger said:
I was particularly fond of the episode which featured Alyissa Milano topless. :-p

Here you go, Danger, you can watch the entire Outer Limits series [1995-2002] at Hulu now.
http://www.hulu.com/outer-limits?c=Science-Fiction
 
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  • #199


I think one of my favorite movies of all time would have to be The Fifth Element.

I am also a huge Firefly fan.
 
  • #200


Warehouse 13 was not that great. It was like a higher-budget Torchwood, but not as entertaining as Torchwood.

District 9 was awesome (there's an original short, too, that's like 5-10 minutes long)

V looked good, but I never made it through it and then someone told me what they were after, and now a new one is coming out.

Firefly was ok, Battlestar Gallactica was better. I made it through the whole series, though, and watched the movie.

I couldn't get into Planescape. Reminds me too much of Star Trek with the goofy alien costumes.
 

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