Moving Through the 4th Dimension - Feasible?

[jlorino]

in a 2 dimensional world a 3 dimensional creature would go over the line
____
/ \
_____|______
|

How would a 4th dimensional being jump over a cube?
he wouldn't we move through the 4th with the box since it is time

i see the 4th dimension as only being time and no one being able to reside in that "realm".

feasible?

 

[jlorino]

well my diagram was messed up

 

[lordinfamous]

We live as a result of time. However we are unable to view time as a dimension. We know time exists due to the past and our present. Givin the opportunity to spring into the 4th dimension of time; we could then see the past,present and future, just as a 3rd dimensional creature can observe the every move a creature in the 2nd dimension makes. (forward,backward,or left or right).

 

[juju]

I think that if we tried to time travel we would end up traveling through a fourth space dimension and end up on a parallel time line.

juju

 

[jlorino]

i think there are multiple time lines on the 5th dimensional axis
and multiple realms on the time line and each realms time line contains the past present and future for that realm and that realm only

 

[juju]

In general, I would say it like this. There are many 4D space/time continuums embedded in a higher dimensional space.

juju

 

[hix]

How could you see into the future if the future depends on every bit of matter in the universe intereacting? wouldn't that defeat the uncertainty principle? Because you would know where everything was and everything will be, electrons included. Maybe there is a reason it is so hard to figure out time travel.

 

[vx1]

4th Dimension Ink Art Translations

Well ok this is going to be a twist on the theory you have going here
but, I feel it is still important.

I have over the years created some Ink ArtTranslations by means of astral travel
it has been deemed 4d, being the gate to time and the experience from which it
happen.

so if you all can look at these drawings and tell me what you think besides
if they are pretty * smiles * how such properties may or may not apply
to something that has been in contact via non physical realm .
here is the purchase page because it has them all in one place ..
http://majorclick.com/nightgallery/collect.html

there is adirect page too: but you have to go through a few things to
find all the translations. http://TheNightGallery.net

It has been a project for a long time and i am trying to get some understanding on what has been going on, I feel in some way this has happened thorugh a kind of folding unconscious space. I have a magazine with a detailed history

if you need info to understand more, just ask and I will aswer best I can.

Thanks

 

[J20gU3]

i like the idea that there are many different universe's and each is a cetain movment .e.g forwards, backwards, left, right etc etc. and they all come togethr to make us that can do all the things in all the universe's but we may not know what else we can do.

 

[Arctic Fox]

Can someone here list the dimentions?

 

[Razimus]

The 4th & 5th Dimension

Hello, I've thought a lot about the higher dimensions and I have some theories concerning it. I don't claim to be right on but I've drawn a diagram showing a simplified view on the higher dimensions. It can be seen in the Theories page on my Time Travel News page, which is called Space Time News, it is at: http://razimus.com

Included on that theories page is a simplified description of the 1st 5 dimensions.

--- Razimus

 

[Esnas]

Jumping over a hypercube

How would a 4th dimensional being jump over a cube?
he wouldn't we move through the 4th with the box since it is time

i see the 4th dimension as only being time and no one being able to reside in that "realm".

feasible?

We are living in a four dimensional universe right now! (The fourth dimension is time or the space-time continuum) Of course we cannot see time in the way that we can see a line, a square, or a cube. Some people say that they can imagine a hypercube projection onto a two or three dimensional space. From my understanding, in order to be aware of the fourth dimension, my awareness would have to exist in at least a five dimensional reality. So, the question could be "How would a 5th dimensional being jump over a hypercube?".

 

[jlorino]

i believe that time is not a dimension in itself but that time is woven into the dimensions in which are bound to its constrants
-now roll with that

 

[Arctic Fox]

Would you be suggesting that Time is a part of every dimension? And that one cannot excape Time?

 

[juju]

Hi,

I think that the only time is Now. Now evolves and changes with varying duration. These changes/durations are what we perceive as time. This temporal perception of the ever changing Now is measured differently as to durations and intervals depending on the state of the measurement within the Now.

This Now cuts across all spatial dimensions so the perceptions of change/duration do also.

juju

 

[Esnas]

Hi,

I think that the only time is Now. Now evolves and changes with varying duration. These changes/durations are what we perceive as time. This temporal perception of the ever changing Now is measured differently as to durations and intervals depending on the state of the measurement within the Now.

This Now cuts across all spatial dimensions so the perceptions of change/duration do also.

juju

I don't quite see how there could be a duration within the "now". Duration implies a lapse of time. If "now" exist in every dimension, then "now" is simply a point on any coordinate of n-dimensional space.

 

[Esnas]

i believe that time is not a dimension in itself but that time is woven into the dimensions in which are bound to its constrants
-now roll with that

Time can be used as a dimension (such as relativistic space-time) or not as a dimension. It depends on what you are looking at and your perception.

See
http://tetraspace.alkaline.org/forum/

or more specifically
http://tetraspace.alkaline.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=273&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

For me, if space-time (there can be no three dimensional space without time) is not a dimension, then what is it? It is not just that time is "woven" into the dimensions (3D) but 3D space is woven into time. How the weaving works in n-dimensional systems is an interesting thought.

Let's keep it rolling!

 

[jlorino]

its like a coordinate plane. now would be me standing here in this place in space-time at point (x,y,z,t)

 

[Esnas]

its like a coordinate plane. now would be me standing here in this place in space-time at point (x,y,z,t)

Which also implies that "now" is where these coordinates intersect.

 

[selfAdjoint]

Which also implies that "now" is where these coordinates intersect.

Yes but you should be able to change coordinates, not be stuck with "this way is x, that way is y...".

 

[jlorino]

why can't it be?

 

[Noir Chronicles]

hmmm

Doesn't the uncertainty principle(was it heizenberg or somethin like that...?) that said you can't know the exact position of an object and the time... i don't know too much, so excuse the stupidity

 

[jlorino]

I think your right about not knowing the exact because there is infinite amount of numbers between 1.0 and 2.0

 

[juju]

I don't quite see how there could be a duration within the "now". Duration implies a lapse of time. If "now" exist in every dimension, then "now" is simply a point on any coordinate of n-dimensional space.

The "now" is a moving point. The duration or interval is how far the point has moved or how much it has changed.

juju

 

[ramollari]

It is the 4D supercube that makes me understand somehow the fourth dimension. 16 corners and 32 sides. We can extend the number of dimensions as far as we want in this way. But the physical space seems to be 3 dimensional, with time being a different kind of dimension in which you cannot change the position as you want (backward or forward).

 

[Gir]

How could you see into the future if the future depends on every bit of matter in the universe intereacting? wouldn't that defeat the uncertainty principle? Because you would know where everything was and everything will be, electrons included. Maybe there is a reason it is so hard to figure out time travel.

because once you breach the 4th dimension you exist in all places at all times. you wouldn't so much be seeing the future as seeing the results of all actions ever.

 

[Gir]

Doesn't the uncertainty principle(was it heizenberg or somethin like that...?) that said you can't know the exact position of an object and the time... i don't know too much, so excuse the stupidity

it's more complex than that, it also says you can't observe a particle without effecting it and that you cannot know where a particle is and know what it's doing at the same time. I could be explaining this poorly.

 

[<<<GUILLE>>>]

we are in three dimensions but live in 4.

I mean by this, that we can't accept time as a dimension because we are used to be able of traveling at free speeds and directions in dimensions. Some in this thread say we don't travell in time. Well, we do! but at a constant speed,. not even this is correct, because if we get tio very high speeds near speed of light, our time travell is slower, so we do travel in time.

 

[jdlech]

... But the physical space seems to be 3 dimensional, with time being a different kind of dimension in which you cannot change the position as you want (backward or forward).

But you do change position along the t axis. We have even proven that we can change our velocity along the t axis. It's called time dilation and all the space missions must account for it in order to keep the computers syncronised.

What I think you mean is we cannot stop or go backwards along the t axis the same way as we can the x,y, and z. Special relativity prohibits us from doing that. However, we have gotten things to slow down quite a bit along the t axis in our colliders.

I think the trouble starts with the fact that time is like a pencil with it's point facing directly towards you. You cannot tell how short or long the pencil is unless you turn it to the side. The three spatial axis are like looking at the pencil from the side; it's easy to tell the length. But time is 90 degrees to space and that puts it right down the middle of our perceptions. We can't see it's length without turning.
So far, the only way we've been able to turn the pencil in any signifcant amount has been in our supercolliders.

Warning: Read too many of my posts and you'll end up staring at pencils and drooling.

 

[Huckleberry]

in a 2 dimensional world a 3 dimensional creature would go over the line
____
/ \
_____|______
|

How would a 4th dimensional being jump over a cube?
he wouldn't we move through the 4th with the box since it is time

i see the 4th dimension as only being time and no one being able to reside in that "realm".

feasible?

Why would they need to jump over a cube? A cube would have no mass for a 4dimensional being. They could just walk all over it or through it, just like you could walk through a 2d square traced in the air. Ofcourse that square might be the size of universes.