Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the desire to find electronic solutions for writing and exercising equations from the book "Gravitation" by Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler (MTW). Participants explore various software options for symbolic and numerical calculations, as well as the challenges associated with real-world simulations of complex systems.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant expresses a need for electronic solutions to write and exercise equations from MTW, mentioning their experience with Mathcad for algebraic equations.
- Another suggests looking into cosmological simulation software, specifically mentioning EAGLE, but notes uncertainty about its programming language and availability.
- A participant acknowledges the usefulness of the EAGLE site but emphasizes the need for symbolic math capabilities.
- It is noted that many real-world simulations do not yield analytical solutions, using the three-body problem as an example of a system that can only be solved numerically.
- Discussion includes the impact of numerical ODE algorithms on stability and error in simulations, with references to experiences in an educational context where different algorithms were tested.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants do not reach a consensus on the best electronic solutions for symbolic math, and there are multiple competing views regarding the capabilities of different software options and the nature of solutions in complex systems.
Contextual Notes
Participants highlight limitations in obtaining analytical solutions for complex systems and the dependence on numerical methods, which introduce errors that affect stability. The discussion does not resolve the specific software recommendations or the challenges of symbolic versus numerical calculations.