Multiparticle system, KE and PE, distances before/during/after fission

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of fission in heavy nuclei, specifically thorium, uranium, and plutonium. When these nuclei absorb a slow-moving neutron, they can split apart into two fragments, with the charges and nucleons adding up to the original nucleus. One possible fission mode involves palladium nuclei, with each having an electric charge of 46e. The rest masses of the fission fragments add up to less than the rest mass of the original nucleus. The conversation then discusses three states to consider in the analysis of fission: 1) the initial state of the nucleus before fission, 2) the state just after fission when the palladium nuclei are close together and momentarily
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Homework Statement



For some isotopes of some very heavy nuclei, including nuclei of thorium, uranium, and plutonium, the nucleus will fission (split apart) when it absorbs a slow-moving neutron. Uranium-235, with 92 protons and 143 neutrons, can fission when it absorbs a neutron and becomes Uranium-236. The two fission fragments can be almost any two nuclei whose charges Q1 and Q2 add up to 92e (where e is the charge on a proton, e = 1.6multiply10-19 coulomb), and whose nucleons add up to 236 protons and neutrons (U-236, formed from U-235 plus a neutron). One of the possible fission modes involves nearly equal fragments, palladium nuclei (Pd) each with electric charge Q1 = Q2 = 46e. The rest masses of the two palladium nuclei add up to less than the rest mass of the original nucleus. (In addition to the two main fission fragments there are typically one or more free neutrons in the final state; in your analysis make the simplifying assumption that there are no free neutrons, just two palladium nuclei.)

The rest mass of the U-236 nucleus (formed from U-235 plus a neutron) is 235.995 u (unified atomic mass units), and the rest mass of each of the two Pd-118 nuclei is 117.894 u, where 1 u = 1.66multiply10-27 kg (approximately the mass of one nucleon). In your calculations, keep at least 6 significant figures, because the calculations involve subtracting large numbers from each other, leaving a small difference. There are three states you should consider in your analysis:

1) The initial state of the U-236 nucleus, before it fissions.
2) The state just after fission, when the two palladium nuclei are close together, and momentarily at rest.
3) The state when the palladium nuclei are very far away from each other, traveling at high speed.
(a) Calculate the final speed v, when the palladium nuclei have moved very far apart due to their mutual electric repulsion. Keep at least 6 significant figures in your calculations. In your analysis it is all right to use the nonrelativistic formulas, but you then must check that the calculated v is indeed small compared to c. (The large kinetic energies of these palladium nuclei are eventually dissipated into thermal energy of the surrounding material. In a nuclear reactor this hot material boils water and drives an electric generator.)

(b) Using energy considerations, calculate the distance between centers of the palladium nuclei just after fission, when they are momentarily at rest. Keep at least 6 significant figures in your calculations.

(c) A proton or neutron has a radius r of roughly 1multiply10-15 m, and a nucleus is a tightly packed collection of nucleons. Therefore the volume of the nucleus, (4/3)piR3, is approximately equal to the volume of one nucleon, (4/3)pir3, times the number N of nucleons in the nucleus: (4/3)piR3 = N(4/3)pir3. So the radius R of a nucleus is about N1/3 times the radius r of one nucleon. More precisely, experiments show that the radius of a nucleus containing N nucleons is (1.3multiply10-15 m)multiplyN1/3. What is the radius of a palladium nucleus?

(d) You could make a careful scale drawing on paper of the two palladium nuclei in part (b), just after fission, and label the drawing with the distances that you calculated in parts (b) and (c). If the two palladium nuclei are nearly touching, this would be consistent with our model of fission, in which the U-236 nucleus fissions into two pieces that are initially nearly at rest. How big is the gap between the surfaces of the two nuclei? (If you have done the calculations correctly, you will indeed find that the gap is a rather small fraction of the center-to-center distance, which means that our model for the fission process is a pretty good model.)

Homework Equations



Ue = (9e9)(q1q2/r); K = 1/2 m v^2; ...

The Attempt at a Solution



I have absolutely no idea QQ
 
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yea i was having the same problem. do you know where to start?
 
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bhatfield said:
yea i was having the same problem. do you know where to start?

no idea...I've thought about potential and kinetic energies but then it always ends up with me having two variables...
 
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a) 12570700 u = 1/2mv^2
b)1.57644e-14 u = columbos constant * ((q1q2)/r) solve for r
c)6.3763e-15 N = 118
d)3.01239e-15
 
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Is there any way you can explain in detail how you got those answers?

I would really appreciate it.
 
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1) The initial state of the Pu-240 nucleus, before it fissions = m(pu)c^2
2) The state just after fission, when the two silver nuclei are close together, and momentarily at rest = ?
3) The state when the silver nuclei are very far away from each other, traveling at high speed = .5*m(ag)*v^2

the equation will be something like m(pu)c^2 + ? = .5*m(ag)*v^2
 

1. What is a Multiparticle System?

A multiparticle system is a collection of particles that interact with each other through different forces. Examples of multiparticle systems include atoms, molecules, and even larger systems such as gases, liquids, and solids.

2. What is the relationship between Kinetic and Potential Energy in a Multiparticle System?

In a multiparticle system, the total energy is the sum of the kinetic energy (KE) and potential energy (PE) of all particles. The kinetic energy is the energy of motion of the particles, while the potential energy is the energy associated with the interactions between particles.

3. How does the distance between particles affect the Kinetic and Potential Energy in a Multiparticle System?

The distance between particles is directly related to the potential energy in a multiparticle system. As the distance decreases, the potential energy increases and the kinetic energy decreases. This is because particles are closer together and experience stronger forces of attraction or repulsion, resulting in a decrease in kinetic energy and an increase in potential energy.

4. What happens to the Kinetic and Potential Energy during Fission?

During fission, the potential energy decreases while the kinetic energy increases. This is because the particles are splitting apart and moving away from each other, resulting in a decrease in potential energy and an increase in kinetic energy.

5. How does the distance between particles change before, during, and after Fission?

Before fission, the distance between particles is relatively large, resulting in low potential energy and high kinetic energy. During fission, the distance decreases as the particles split apart, resulting in an increase in potential energy and a decrease in kinetic energy. After fission, the particles continue to move further apart, resulting in an even greater increase in potential energy and a decrease in kinetic energy.

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