Multiplying a vector by a complex number

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The discussion revolves around the effects of multiplying a vector, specifically the vector 3i + 4j, by a complex scalar, such as 2 + 5i. Participants explore the implications of this operation in terms of vector properties and coordinate systems, addressing both theoretical and conceptual aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that multiplying a vector by a real scalar expands its magnitude, questioning how this changes with a complex scalar.
  • Another participant explains that multiplying a vector by a complex scalar can be expressed as creating two separate vectors for the real and imaginary parts, leading to different components.
  • A different perspective suggests that for the multiplication to have meaning, the vector must be considered in a complex coordinate system, where components are treated as complex numbers.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of a geometrical interpretation when multiplying a vector with real components by a complex number, questioning whether this operation results in any geometric transformations.
  • One participant emphasizes that the scalar product definition changes when dealing with complex numbers, involving complex conjugation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the geometrical interpretation of multiplying a vector by a complex number. While some argue that such an operation lacks geometric meaning, others suggest that it can be understood within the context of complex vector spaces. Overall, the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of this operation.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the necessity of defining vector spaces over real versus complex numbers, which affects the interpretation and operations involving vectors. There is also mention of potential confusion in notation regarding the use of "i" for both vector components and the imaginary unit.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in advanced vector mathematics, particularly those exploring the implications of complex numbers in vector operations and their geometric interpretations.

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I have learned that if I multiply a vector, say 3i + 4j, by a scalar that is a real number, say 2, the effect of the operation is to expand the size of the magnitude of the original vector, by 2 in this case, and the result would be 6i + 8j.

What would be the effect on a vector, like 3i + 4j, if I multiply it by a scalar that is a complex number, say 2 + 5i?
 
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If you have a scalar ##z##, be it real or complex, and multiply with a vector ##v = \sum_{i=1}^N v_ie_i## where ##N## the dimension of the vector, ##v_i## the i-th component which can be real or complex scalar, and ##e_i## the i-th basis (unit) vector, the result will be ##zv = \sum_{i=1}^N (zv_i) e_i##.
Note that there is possible confusion in your notation, you use ##i## both for denoting the component of a vector and the imaginary number ##i=\sqrt{-1}##.
 
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When you multiply by a complex number you essentially create a dyad of vectors ##(v_1,v_2)## one for the real part (##v_1##) and one for the imaginary part (##v_2##), where in your example it would be ##v_1=2(3i+4j)=6i+8j## and ##v_2=5(3i+4j)=15i+20j##
 
topito2 said:
I have learned that if I multiply a vector, say 3i + 4j, by a scalar that is a real number, say 2, the effect of the operation is to expand the size of the magnitude of the original vector, by 2 in this case, and the result would be 6i + 8j.

What would be the effect on a vector, like 3i + 4j, if I multiply it by a scalar that is a complex number, say 2 + 5i?
For this operation to have meaning, you would need to consider your vector to have complex coordinates. So in your vector, the "6" is in reality (6 + 0i) etc.You will find that most vector operations will be the same when using complex coordinates.

Except
The scalar product (dot product) will have a slightly different definition. Instead of \vec{a}\cdot \vec{b} =\sum_{k}a_{k}b_{k} the definition is \vec{a}\cdot \vec{b} =\sum_{k}a_{k}\bar{b}_{k} where the bar denotes complex conjugation.
 
topito2 said:
What would be the effect on a vector, like 3i + 4j, if I multiply it by a scalar that is a complex number, say 2 + 5i?
It is probably better to rename the parts of your vector: 3x+4y. Then your multiplication gives (6+10i)x + (8+20i)y. Your vector space has to be a vector space over the complex numbers to make such a multiplication meaningful.
 
thank you so much for your quick responses, guys! you have been very helpful.
 
so according to what you have exposed, there is no geometrical interpretation for multiplying a vector (with real numbers as components) by a complex number? performing that kind of operation won't make the vector to have an expanded magnitude, to rotate, or something else?
 
topito2 said:
so according to what you have exposed, there is no geometrical interpretation for multiplying a vector (with real numbers as components) by a complex number?
Not that I know of.

A vector with real components is an element of a vector space over the field of real numbers. I.e., the components of the vector are real numbers. The basic operations on such a vector space are vector addition and multiplication by scalars (real numbers in this case).

A vector with complex components is an element of a vector space over the field of complex numbers. The basic operations are the same as above, except that scalar multiplication includes multiplying by complex scalars.
topito2 said:
performing that kind of operation won't make the vector to have an expanded magnitude, to rotate, or something else?
 
Thank you so much for your help!
 

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