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- Homework Statement
- Show that the result obtained can be done directly via the chain rule for partial derivatives.
- Relevant Equations
- Chain rule for partial derivatives
For context, we have an equation [itex]f(x,y) = \frac{x}{y}[/itex] and we had used the substitutions [itex]x = r \cos\theta[/itex] and [itex]y = r \sin\theta[/itex]. In the previous parts of the question, we have shown the following result:
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} = \cos\theta \Big(\frac{\partial f}{\partial r}\Big) - \frac{\sin\theta}{r} \Big(\frac{\partial f}{\partial \theta}\Big)[/tex]
Now we have been asked to get to this result directly using the chain rule for partial derivatives.
My attempt: the chain rule states that:
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} = \Big(\frac{\partial f}{\partial r}\Big) \Big(\frac{\partial r}{\partial x}\Big) + \Big(\frac{\partial f}{\partial \theta}\Big) \Big(\frac{\partial \theta}{\partial x}\Big)[/tex]
This is where I seem to have gone wrong, and I would appreciate any insight as to why that may have been the case. The answers have used [itex]r^2 = x^2 + y^2[/itex] and [itex]\tan\theta = \frac{y}{x}[/itex] and have gone on to the answer. I, however, just used the substitution above [itex]x = r\cos\theta[/itex], but this doesn't seem to lead us in the right direction. Showing my method, we get [itex]\frac{\partial r}{\partial x} = \frac{1}{cos\theta}[/itex] and [itex]\frac{\partial \theta}{\partial x} = \frac{-1}{r\sin\theta}[/itex]. Substituting into the above chain rule yields:
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} = \Big(\frac{\partial f}{\partial r}\Big) \Big(\frac{1}{cos\theta} \Big) + \Big(\frac{\partial f}{\partial \theta}\Big) \Big(\frac{-1}{r\sin\theta}\Big)[/tex]. I am not sure I can see any clever way to get us to the right answer from here.
Looking back, I think the fact that I had two expressions for [itex]r[/itex] in terms of [itex]x[/itex] and [itex]y[/itex] could have been part of the problem. However, I cannot seem to put an exact reason as to why that would be the case.
Thanks in advance.
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} = \cos\theta \Big(\frac{\partial f}{\partial r}\Big) - \frac{\sin\theta}{r} \Big(\frac{\partial f}{\partial \theta}\Big)[/tex]
Now we have been asked to get to this result directly using the chain rule for partial derivatives.
My attempt: the chain rule states that:
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} = \Big(\frac{\partial f}{\partial r}\Big) \Big(\frac{\partial r}{\partial x}\Big) + \Big(\frac{\partial f}{\partial \theta}\Big) \Big(\frac{\partial \theta}{\partial x}\Big)[/tex]
This is where I seem to have gone wrong, and I would appreciate any insight as to why that may have been the case. The answers have used [itex]r^2 = x^2 + y^2[/itex] and [itex]\tan\theta = \frac{y}{x}[/itex] and have gone on to the answer. I, however, just used the substitution above [itex]x = r\cos\theta[/itex], but this doesn't seem to lead us in the right direction. Showing my method, we get [itex]\frac{\partial r}{\partial x} = \frac{1}{cos\theta}[/itex] and [itex]\frac{\partial \theta}{\partial x} = \frac{-1}{r\sin\theta}[/itex]. Substituting into the above chain rule yields:
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} = \Big(\frac{\partial f}{\partial r}\Big) \Big(\frac{1}{cos\theta} \Big) + \Big(\frac{\partial f}{\partial \theta}\Big) \Big(\frac{-1}{r\sin\theta}\Big)[/tex]. I am not sure I can see any clever way to get us to the right answer from here.
Looking back, I think the fact that I had two expressions for [itex]r[/itex] in terms of [itex]x[/itex] and [itex]y[/itex] could have been part of the problem. However, I cannot seem to put an exact reason as to why that would be the case.
Thanks in advance.