Multivariate Inverse Functions: Understanding Equations with Multiple Variables

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When finding inverse functions for two-variable functions f(x, y) and g(x, y), the goal is to express x and y in terms of the new variables a and b, resulting in equations x = m(a, b) and y = n(a, b). However, the discussion highlights that traditional inverses from R² to R may not apply, as these functions are not one-to-one, complicating the concept of inverses. The correct approach involves treating the functions as a mapping from R² to R², allowing for a more comprehensive understanding of the relationships between the variables. The conversation also emphasizes the importance of manipulating the equations to solve for x and y, while noting that the switching of variables is often misunderstood. Ultimately, the mapping of curves in R² to points in R complicates the inverse relationship, necessitating a vector notation perspective for clarity.
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Homework Statement



If I am asked to find the inverse functions of two functions:

a=f(x, y)
b=g(x,y)

Does this mean find the two equations:

x=m(a, b)
y=n(a,b)

If so, how do m, and n compare to f and g? Inverses of single variables mirror their inverse on a graph. How does this work with multiple variables?

Thanks!

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Since f and g map R2 to R, their inverses would have to map R to R2. IOW, you would have (x, y) = f-1(a). Same for g-1.

EDIT: On second thought, I don't think it even makes sense to talk about the inverse of a function from R2 to R.
 
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Hmm, not sure exactly what you mean.

I'm trying to get the inverse functions of the first two functions of x and y, f and g, which my text states to simply manipulate the equations and solve for x and y as functions of a and b.

Supposedly these new equations are the inverse functions.

Is this correct?

I'm also wondering, when dealing with a single variable function, we end up interchanging variables which is something not done above. Why are they inverses then?
 
How about giving us the exact problem?

BTW, the whole business of switching variable names is highly overrated, IMO. If you have a one-to-one function f, such that y = f(x), then the inverse relationship is x = f-1(y). The graphs of y = f(x) and x = f-1(y) are exactly the same.

For example, log functions in a particular base and exponential functions in the same base are related as described above. If y = log x, then x = 10y, and both these equations have the same graph. The two equations are merely two ways of saying the exact same thing. The business of switching variables so that you get two different graphs obscures what is IMO the most important concept of functions and their inverses -- providing a way to take an equation in the form y = f(x) and solve it for x in terms of y.
 
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I'm asked to find the inverses of:

u=f(x, y)=excos y
v=g(x,y)= exsin y

The inverses should be:

x=f-1(u, v)
y=g-1(u, v)

So far I've gotten:

y = arctan (v/u)

x = Ln\frac{u}{cos (arctan \frac{v}{u})}

I'll be taking the Jacobian of this, so the more I can simplify it the better.
 
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Try adding the squares of u and v together to solve for x. You'll get a nicer expression for x.
 
Hi Vela,

I'm an idiot though, it was sin/cos y as updated above. Thanks though.
 
Yeah, I figured as much, but my hint still works.
 
Wow, thanks so much for that!
 
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It's better to think of it as

\begin{pmatrix}u\\v\end{pmatrix}=f\begin{pmatrix}x\\y\end{pmatrix}

and

\begin{pmatrix}x\\y\end{pmatrix}=f^{-1}\begin{pmatrix}u\\v\end{pmatrix}

As Mark44 noted above, with the individual functions, you can't find inverses because they're not one-to-one. Generally, curves in R2 will map to a single point in R, so the inverse relation isn't a function.
 
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I'm not sure I follow... Is that combinatorial notation?
 
  • #12
No, it's vector notation.
 
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Yeah, it's vector notation. You can think of it as one mapping from R2 to R2, rather than two individual mappings from R2 to R. The mapping you have for this problem, for instance, maps vertical lines in the xy-plane to circles in the uv-plane.
 

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