Jacobian when there's a multivariate function inside it

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The discussion revolves around differentiating a multivariate function F(x,y) = f(g(x)k(y); g(x)+h(y)), specifically focusing on the Jacobian matrix and the implications of having a multivariate function within it.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the structure of the Jacobian, noting it will have two columns due to the variables x and y. There is uncertainty about how to proceed with the differentiation given the multivariate nature of f. Questions arise regarding the notation used, particularly the significance of the semicolon and the representation of the function.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested applying the chain rule for derivatives and have begun to clarify the relationship between the variables and the functions involved. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the derivatives in terms of the partial derivatives of f.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of partial differentiation and the implications of the function's structure, with some expressing confusion about the notation and the number of rows and columns in the Jacobian matrix.

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Homework Statement



differentiate the function F(x,y) = f( g(x)k(y) ; g(x)+h(y) )

Homework Equations



Standard rules for partial differentiation

The Attempt at a Solution



The Jacobian will have two columns because of the variables x and y. But what then? f is a multivariate function inside the Jacobian!
 
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So on top of the standard rules you get the chain rule.
Show some attempt at solution and help is on the way.

To demo my ignorance: Differentiating gives two columns, but one row only, right ?
Is there a significance in the ";" ? You write F ( x , y ) -- a notation which I am also familiar with -- , but then you write f ( u ; v )
 
gummz said:

Homework Statement



differentiate the function F(x,y) = f( g(x)k(y) ; g(x)+h(y) )

Homework Equations



Standard rules for partial differentiation

The Attempt at a Solution



The Jacobian will have two columns because of the variables x and y. But what then? f is a multivariate function inside the Jacobian!

Do you mean ##F(x,y) = f(u,v)##, where ##u = g(x) k(y)## and ##v = g(x) + h(y)##? If so, just apply the chain rule for derivatives. You need to express the answers in terms of the functions ##f_1, f_2##, where ##f_1(u,v) \equiv \partial f(u,v)/\partial u## and ##f_2(u,v) \equiv \partial f(u,v) / \partial v##.
 
Consider the partial derivatives that make up the derivative matrix. It should be a 2x2, you have two functions, and take the derivative of both functions wrt x or wrt y.
 

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