Must we add QED correction to perturbative QCD?

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The discussion revolves around the necessity of incorporating Quantum Electrodynamics (QED) corrections into perturbative Quantum Chromodynamics (QCD) when considering high momentum interactions. Participants explore the implications of strong and electromagnetic forces at high energies, as well as related conservation laws in particle physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that at high momentum, the strong interaction becomes asymptotically weak, allowing for the use of perturbative QCD, but questions whether QED corrections should be included due to the increasing electric charge.
  • Another participant raises a question about the symmetry associated with lepton and baryon number conservation laws.
  • A participant proposes that lepton number conservation corresponds to SU(2)xU(1) symmetry and baryon number conservation corresponds to SU(3) symmetry, suggesting that in many cases, QED corrections may not be necessary in perturbative QCD.
  • There is a mention of potential violations of lepton number conservation within the Standard Model and a query about the implications for combining QED and QCD in such cases.
  • A later post corrects an earlier statement, clarifying that lepton number conservation is violated within each family of leptons but remains conserved when considering all families collectively.
  • Another participant introduces the idea that the discovery of neutrino mass indicates a slight breaking of the Standard Model and a violation of lepton number conservation.
  • A participant discusses the nature of collisions between electrons and protons, speculating on the outcomes if quarks were considered chargeless, and describes the sequence of interactions in electron-positron annihilation leading to hadron production.
  • There is a question about how to explain the strong force processes that occur during collisions between leptons and hadrons that result in the production of new hadrons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of QED corrections in perturbative QCD, with some suggesting it may not be needed in certain contexts, while others raise concerns about the implications of lepton number conservation violations. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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Participants highlight various assumptions regarding the applicability of conservation laws and the interplay between QED and QCD, but these assumptions are not fully explored or settled within the discussion.

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Please teach me this:
It seem to me that when we consider high momentum,then the strong interaction become asymtotic week force,so we can use perturbative QCD.But at the same time,when considering large momentum,the ''electric charge'' became large,then the ''electric force'' between quarks can not be neglected.So must we add the QED correction to perturbative QCD?
Thank you very much in advance.
 
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By the way, what is the symmetry corresponding with the lepton,barion...number conservative laws?
 
At the moment,I think that lepton number convervative law corresponds with SU(2)xU(1) symmetry and barion number conservative law corresponds with SU(3) symmetry.Because of the conservative laws,when we consider hadron sector we need not consider lepton sector and vice versa(meaning we need not consider QED correction in perturbative QCD in many cases).Is that correct?
 
I hear that still in framework of standard model,there are some cases that the lepton number conservative law is violated.Then how about the combination of QED and QCD in this case?
 
Sorry,I have mistaken:the lepton number conservation violate in each family,but still being conservative in considering all families of leptons.
 
Now I hear that neutrino has tiny mass,then standard model is slightly broken and lepton number conservation is violated?
 
In collision of electron and proton,if we have imagination of quarks being electric chargeless,then the collision was only elastic collision but could not produce hadrons other proton?(meaning output particle were electron and proton).In annihilation process of electron and positron producing hadrons,first the electro force process happens(through virtue photon) producing quarks,after that the strong force happends producing hadrons?
 
How can we explain the strong force process happen in collision between lepton and hadron producing new hadrons?
 

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