Navier Stokes Equation: Examples & Explanation

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The discussion centers around the Navier-Stokes equations, exploring their applications, physical meaning, and relevance in fluid mechanics. Participants seek to understand both the theoretical framework and practical uses of the equations, including their limitations in certain contexts.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests examples of the Navier-Stokes equations' applications and seeks clarification on the meaning of each term in the equation.
  • Another participant states that the equations describe fluid flow but does not elaborate on specific applications.
  • A participant explains that the Navier-Stokes equations can be used to find acceleration and velocity of fluids, emphasizing the importance of velocity and pressure as desirable quantities.
  • One participant highlights that the equations are not typically used for one-dimensional flow scenarios, suggesting that other equations like the Darcy-Weisbach equation are preferred for such cases.
  • Another participant mentions that the Navier-Stokes equations are generally solved using computational fluid dynamics (CFD) programs, particularly for complex fluid flows.
  • Concerns are raised about the practical use of the Navier-Stokes equations in industry, with some participants noting that many fluid calculations rely on simpler equations or experimental data.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of understanding and application of the Navier-Stokes equations. There is no consensus on their practical use in industry, as some argue they are not commonly applied in simpler flow scenarios, while others suggest they are essential for complex analyses.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations regarding the applicability of the Navier-Stokes equations, particularly in one-dimensional flow situations and the complexity of real piping systems. The discussion reflects a range of experiences with fluid mechanics, highlighting a divide between theoretical understanding and practical application.

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This discussion may be useful for students and professionals in fluid mechanics, engineering, and applied mathematics, particularly those interested in the theoretical and practical aspects of fluid flow analysis.

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Hi guys.

Can somebody give mé examples for what the navier stokes equation normally are uset for.?

I do not understand or Can see, what we use it for.?

And Can someone help mé understand the equation? Like what each term is?
 
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This article should keep you busy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navier–Stokes_equations

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They describe the flow of fluids. That's about all there is to it. I am not sure what you are hoping to hear.
 
Trust mé. I have made a lot of searching.

I know it tells about the behavoir of a fluid. But what is it used for ? To find acceleration or velocity of a fluid or?

For my own understanding, it Will help mé to know, what the terms are in the equation.

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Maybe someone Can explain it to mé?
 
I mean the physical meaning of the terms?
 
It is used for all of the above. In essence it is a statement along the lines of ##F=\sum ma## for a continuous fluid. Typically velocity and pressure are the most desirable quantities, but along with the energy equation, temperature and heat transfer are commonly sought, too.

So basically, in vector notation, you have
\rho \dfrac{D\vec{V}}{Dt} = -\nabla p + \mu\nabla^2 \vec{V} + \vec{f}.
The terms are basically force terms, where
\rho\dfrac{D\vec{V}}{Dt} = \rho \vec{a}
is the total force per unit volume on a given fluid element on the left side, and the three terms on the right side area as follows:
  • ##-\nabla p## are the pressure forces per unit volume on the fluid element;
  • ##\mu\nabla^2 \vec{V}## are the viscous forces per unit volume on the fluid element; and
  • ##\vec{f}## is the body force per unit volume on the fluid element (e.g. gravity or magneto/electrodynamic forces).
 
Thank you so much,, i do understand it much better now..
 
Pick up an introductory book on fluid mechanics. It'll help you understand it more.
 
Is the Navier Stokes equation actually used in industry?

From what I have seen in fluids calculations they're either based on the Bernoulli equation, or derived almost entirely experimentally, with the addition of friction factors added in. This is for internal flow, by the way.
 
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Perhpas it would help to understand what they are NOT used for. They are not used for 1 dimensional flow such as the flow and pressure drop of fluid through a pipe. For that, the Darcy Weisbach equation and similar equations are generally used. The NS equations COULD be used for that but in general, the equations can't be solved for any but the most simple systems and any real piping system would be far too complex.

The NS equations are generally used by computers running CFD programs. The flow field is discretized such as by reducing to finite volumes or elements, and the equations are then linearized to allow them to be solved algebraically. The use of CFD software is generally limited to fairly complex fluid flows where 2 or 3 dimensional flow needs to be analyzed such as flow through a turbine for example or across an aircraft. Flow through valves and piping is rarely analyzed using CFD.
 
  • #11
Ah okay, thanks for that.

Was just curious, as I never actually dealt with the NS equation during my undergrad and was wondering if I was "missing out" on anything. The fluids taught to me was mainly internal flow, where we made use of the Bernoulli equation, the Darcy–Weisbach equation, alongside all sorts of other experimentally derived equations to calculate liquid and gas flow through piping, valves, instrumentation etc.
 

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