Deriving the 1-D Linear Convection Equation

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the 1-D linear convection equation from the 1-D Navier-Stokes equations, focusing on the assumptions of inviscid flow, constant wave propagation velocity, and the treatment of terms in the equations. The scope includes theoretical derivation and mathematical reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that under certain assumptions, the 1-D Navier-Stokes equations reduce to a 1-D nonlinear convection equation, which can be linearized by assuming a constant wave propagation velocity.
  • Another participant questions the correctness of the initial assertion and requests a full derivation of the equations involved.
  • A subsequent participant agrees with the need for a full derivation and points out that the equation presented is nonlinear, suggesting a linearization approach using perturbation theory.
  • One participant introduces the linearization method, proposing to express the velocity as a sum of a constant and a small perturbation, leading to a modified equation.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the information and indicates a willingness to explore the concept of linearization further.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views regarding the correctness of the initial derivation and the need for a complete derivation to clarify the linearization process.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions and definitions are not fully explored, particularly regarding the treatment of the velocity terms in the equations and the implications of linearization. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity in the derivation process.

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With the assumptions of Inviscid flow, no pressure gradient and no body force terms in 1-D Navier Stokes becomes 1-D nonlinear convection equation;
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And if we assume velocity of wave propagation is constant value c, equation becomes 1-D linear convection equation;
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This is online derivation and my question is why only the u value outside of partial derivatives is replaced with c? we have 3 u term there. I was thinking they were all same term. So why do we only replace one of them?
 
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I don't think this is correct. Can you please provide the full derivation ?
 
dRic2 said:
I don't think this is correct. Can you please provide the full derivation ?
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Here is the derivation.
 
This is correct so far. The problem is this:

Mr_Acceleration said:
And if we assume velocity of wave propagation is constant value c, equation becomes 1-D linear convection equation;

This is not. That's why I'd like a full derivation.

Anyway the reasoning is the following:
$$ \frac {\partial u} {\partial t} + u \frac {\partial u} {\partial x} = 0$$
is NON-linear. What you usually do is linearize it, by writing ##u = u_0 + u'## where ##u_0## is an unperturbed constant velocity and ##u'## is a small perturbation. If you substitute into the diff equation ##\frac {\partial u_0} {\partial t} = \frac {\partial u_0} {\partial x} = 0## because ##u_0## is a constant. You finally end up with
$$ \frac {\partial u'} {\partial t} + u_0 \frac {\partial u'} {\partial x} = 0$$
 
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Thank you for your answer. I didn't know about this. Now i will search linearization with pertubation.
 

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