Navigating EE Major as an Older Student - What Should I Do?

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The discussion centers around the experiences and advice for an older undergraduate student navigating an Electrical Engineering (EE) major. Participants explore the challenges and opportunities within the field, particularly in relation to advanced topics like signal processing, power systems, and more complex areas of study.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the potential ease of the EE major given their background in programming, physics, and mathematics, and seeks guidance on what to pursue next.
  • Another participant suggests that with a solid math background, signal processing should be manageable, but emphasizes the importance of understanding Fourier Transforms and PDEs.
  • Some participants argue that introductory courses are not representative of the challenges in upper-level EE topics, such as electromagnetics, RF design, and analog systems.
  • A participant highlights niche fields within EE, like power systems and Smart Grid technologies, suggesting these areas may offer more complexity and demand for skilled professionals.
  • There is mention of the need to engage with more advanced topics like quantum mechanics and solid-state physics to deepen understanding of semiconductor components.
  • One participant reflects on the complexity of real-world op-amp design compared to introductory textbooks, indicating that practical applications involve more intricate knowledge and formulas.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the perceived difficulty of the EE major. While some believe that introductory courses are too easy, others suggest that advanced topics will present significant challenges. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various advanced topics and fields within EE, indicating that the level of challenge may depend on the specific courses and areas of specialization chosen. There are also mentions of differing experiences based on the institution attended.

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I'm a bit of an older student for an undergrad (still early 20's, but had some time off), but the EE major can be trivially easy a lot of the time. I've taken courses in programming (high level and assembly), physics, math, circuits, and digital logic, and I'm worried I'll either be bored or there's something higher to go for. I do want to go into signal processing, which my first course in will be over the summer. I've heard it's challenging, but I've already had Complex Analysis, Linear Algebra, and ODEs.

So what really should I be doing?
 
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If you have the math background, it should not be too bad. For signal processing, you need Fourier Transform and it is in PDE.

Digital, programming are child's play. If you study some cook book transistors and op-amp design, that is still very easy. Those digital and programming are easy enough for tinkerers to self taught...no offense. Even FPGA is easy, only took me three weeks to learn and program a complex system with modular design just like programming. So don't be too smug about it. Get into electromagnetics, RF, transmission lines, wave guide etc. then I would like to hear from you again. Even in more deeper analog design, it's not going to be too easy.

Of cause it depend on the school you get into, if it is some state U like San Jose State particular those junior colleges, yes, it is not that hard. Those are "feel good" colleges.
 
So what really should I be doing?

With your math skills,
looking for one of those little "Niche" fields that requires high level maths and practical common sense.

In my career i had the privilege to meet a few such people and get a glimpse into their world.

In EE field one of those niches is power systems. I was on the periphery of it.
Smart Grid is going to create demand for people who understand rotating machinery and computers and feedback systems and rotor dynamics.

See if this paper looks interesting to you,
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...yqyEBg&usg=AFQjCNEsadkhxi3u5BzpIsKIQMLoTYOH4w

and if it doesn't , that's fine.
 
The stuff you mentioned is pretty much all introductory.

Don't you have professors who specialize in fields? Look at their upper level courses, you will see it gets more challenging. Have you learned quantum mechanics and solid state physics to understand semiconductor components? You need to take it to the level that you become challenged if everything is too easy.

Signal processing
control theory
communications/information theory
EM/RF design
Semiconductor/manufacturing theory
MEMS/nanotechnology

All of these will be more challenging than your intro courses. Also, analog and digital systems can get quite a bit more complicated and in depth. I'm still learning all of the intricacies of transistors and other semiconductor devices.

Do you like the computer science related stuff? You could get into compiler design, operating systems, real time operating systems, networking, etc.
 
Oh yeh, I totally forgot the closed loop feedback and Laplace transform, those are not for the weak of heart.

A lot of cook books and intro textbooks make op-amp and BJT design look easy. In real life, when you get into it, it is a lot more involve than what is shown in those intro books. They don't print 20 pages for each op-amp data sheet just to kill a tree! Every line of text means something. I just spent time writing over 30 posts here about transimpedance amp two weeks ago! This is only a small facet of op-amp design in inverted configuration. There are so many formulas involved and paper published if one get into the real life design. Nothing like what is in the textbook that describes the inverting op-amp with a feedback resistor and a gain resistor!
 

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