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The discussion revolves around recommendations for physics textbooks suitable for a high school junior preparing for AP Physics C. The focus is on finding a main textbook that complements existing resources and supports a deeper understanding of physics concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to find a main textbook for physics, noting their strong background in computational problem solving and self-study in calculus.
  • Several participants recommend "Halliday and Resnick" as a suitable textbook, highlighting its balance between intuition and rigor.
  • Another participant suggests that the edition of the textbook is not critical, as the core material remains consistent across editions, with only minor differences in problem sets.
  • A participant recommends obtaining the student solutions manual for "Halliday and Resnick," emphasizing its clarity in explaining problem-solving steps.
  • Some participants propose "Introduction to Mechanics" by Kleppner & Kolenkow as a more advanced option, cautioning that it is at a higher level than Halliday and Resnick.
  • Another advanced recommendation is "Landau Lifgarbagez vol.1," but it is noted that it requires a strong understanding of multivariable calculus and significant insight.
  • The original poster expresses a preference to take a gradual approach to learning, indicating they may use Kleppner & Kolenkow as a supplementary text rather than a primary one.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the suitability of "Halliday and Resnick" as a main textbook, while there are differing opinions on the appropriateness of more advanced texts like Kleppner & Kolenkow and Landau Lifgarbagez. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to integrating these resources.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying levels of comfort with mathematical concepts and the importance of understanding foundational material before progressing to more advanced texts.

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I am currently (considered) a junior in high school having just finished my sophomore year. I will be taking AP Calc BC, Physics C (both units), along with Computer Science 1 and 2 at a community college. I have a strong background in computational problem solving and am fluent in C++, Java, Python, and Lisp. Naturally, two of my top choices of college majors are Computer Science and Computer Engineering, but my whole life has revolved around the sciences. Mainly chemistry, until I was about 10 years old and realized that chemistry was basically applied physics, and became curious. I have read a lot of popular science literature in complete awe, and have wanted to dive deeper and gain a more technical knowledge of physics for a long time now. Alas, summer is here, and I don't really want to wait until next year for Physics C when I could get a good head start now. My high school is extremely small (4 kids per class on average) and know the teachers very well so if I pull ahead now I could get into much more advanced topics in the class. I have a good understanding of single and multivariable calculus from teaching myself using the wonderful lectures from MIT Open Course Ware, and will probably work quite a bit on differential equations and linear algebra over the summer.

My current resources allow me access to Feynman's Lectures (all volumes) and a variety of entry level college textbooks, along with works on specific subjects. I plan to also watch Walter Lewin's (from MIT OCW) lectures on physics in order to fortify my understanding of what I'm reading. I have heard from several sources that Feynman's Lectures are best used as a supplemental text and not as a main textbook, so if anyone can reccommned a good main textbook for me to use I would be greatly appreciative.

Thanks in advance.
 
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snipez90 said:
Halliday and Resnick

Agreed. It's not the endall of physics texts, but I really enjoyed the balance between intuition and rigor that the authors went for.
 
Looks like a great text. Definitely will check it out. Unfortunately, I only have access to the 8th edition but it shouldn't be much of a problem. Thanks again.
 
Furchtbar said:
Looks like a great text. Definitely will check it out. Unfortunately, I only have access to the 8th edition but it shouldn't be much of a problem. Thanks again.

Don't ever worry about editions (unless we are talking a difference of decades or if your instructor requires a certain edition). The material is exactly the same. I have the 7th, but in the class I took, students had both the 7th and 8th due to a mixup. There were no issues except that the numbers of the HW assignments were different. Same exact problems, but just remixed. That is what a new edition is usually. New pictures and different ordering of the end-of-chapter problems. It's just the publisher's way of cash raping the student.
 
Definitely agree about Halliday and Resnick, I would also suggest getting the student solutions manual - very explicit and always answers that "but how did you get from there to there, and why?" The manual is for all the volumes (3 in totality) 1) being mechanics, and 2) and 3) being E and M and little bit of 20th century physics towards the end.
 
Since you sound like a smart guy, I would recommend:

"Introduction to mechanics" by Kleppner&Kolenkow. Beware though, it is on a whole higher level than halliday resnick stuff

If you want a theoretical mechanics textbook, Landau Lifgarbagez vol.1 is great. (you need multivariable calculus and a s***load of insight to understand it though).
 
Since you sound like a smart guy, I would recommend:

"Introduction to mechanics" by Kleppner&Kolenkow. Beware though, it is on a whole higher level than halliday resnick stuff

If you want a theoretical mechanics textbook, Landau Lifgarbagez vol.1 is great. (you need multivariable calculus and a s***load of insight to understand it though).

Thank you for the recommendations. I would like to take this one step at a time, since I feel that since I don't have an actual lecturer I might be more prone to not fully understanding important concepts if I am not careful. If I can find a copy of the Kleppner & Kolenkow book, then I will use it as a supplementary text to take concepts I feel very comfortable with one step further. I'm not on the level where I could understand mechanics (or any field of physics) on a purely mathematical level, so the second text is probably out of the question for now, but I will keep it in mind for later.

Thanks again.
 
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