Need a few quantum physics books

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for books on quantum physics for a self-learner, considering the individual's background in mathematics and physics, as well as their specific learning goals within the subject. The scope includes both introductory texts and more advanced materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants emphasize the importance of prior education in physics and mathematics for understanding quantum mechanics.
  • One suggestion is to ask the individual directly about their learning goals and background.
  • Books recommended include John Gribbin's series for a broad overview, R. Shankar's _Principles of Quantum Mechanics_ for a more formal approach, and David J. Griffiths' _Introduction to Quantum Mechanics_ for its accessibility.
  • Concerns are raised about Griffiths' exercises being placed incorrectly, which could lead to confusion.
  • Some participants suggest that Sakurai's text is more suitable for graduate-level study compared to Griffiths, which is seen as more introductory.
  • Michael A. Morrison's _Understanding Quantum Physics: A User's Manual_ and Richard Feynman's _QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter_ are also mentioned as interesting options.
  • R.I.G. Hughes' _The Structure and Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics_ is noted for balancing popularization and serious discussion.
  • One participant mentions that Feynman's book is focused on quantum field theory rather than quantum mechanics specifically.
  • Another participant shares their experience of learning quantum mechanics from Sakurai and Shankar despite being an undergraduate.
  • For those with limited mathematical background, _Alice in Quantum Land_ by Gilmore is suggested.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for a solid mathematical foundation to tackle quantum mechanics, but there are multiple competing views on which books are most appropriate for different levels of understanding. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach and materials for self-learning in quantum physics.

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Some limitations include the varying levels of mathematical knowledge among potential readers and the subjective nature of what constitutes an effective learning resource. The discussion reflects a range of opinions on the appropriateness of certain texts for different educational backgrounds.

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My husband wants to teach himself quantum physics. What books do you recomend? I want to get him a few for his birthday.
Thanks
 
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It's not that simple,i'm afraid.He doesn't want to learn a poem.What prior education (espacially in physics and mathematics) has he had...?

Daniel.
 
Easy. Ask him.
 
Daniel is correct, it's not really possible to understand quantum mechanics without learning the mathematical formalism, and that is quite an undertaking (I am attempting to learn QM myself so I know all too well). If you just want a broad overview of the history and concepts of QM, the series of books by John Gribbin are as good as anything else. If you wanted to take a crack at an actual textbook, you could try _Principles of Quantum Mechanics_ by R. Shankar. It's clearly written, it provides answers for many of the exercises (very important for a self-learner), and it is relatively inexpensive (compared to other textbooks). It also starts off with a 70 page "introduction" to all of the math needed for the rest of the book, so you will know right away if you are in over your head. Another possibility would be _Introduction to Quantum Mechanics_ by David J. Griffiths. I don't own a copy of that one myself but I have heard good things about it.
 
Griffiths has some exercises wrongly placed.I mean they can be solved using knowledge exposed later on in the book.So it doesn't look that good.

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
Griffiths has some exercises wrongly placed.I mean they can be solved using knowledge exposed later on in the book.So it doesn't look that good.

Daniel.
I take it you have no complaints about Shankar? And what is your opinion of Sakurai?

The "good" thing about Griffiths QM text is that it is supposedly easier than the others (if any QM text can be said to be easy). The same sort of comparison is made between Griffiths' electrodynamics text and Jackson's. That is, Jackson is the standard but if you are having trouble with it you could turn to Griffiths for help. Same for QM, you start with Shankar or Sakurai but if they are over your head you could try Griffiths. Of course, all of this is assuming you have the necessary mathematical foundation (vector calculus, linear algebra, differential equations, etc.) to tackle any of these books in the first place.
 
mrsXtine said:
My husband wants to teach himself quantum physics. What books do you recomend? I want to get him a few for his birthday.
Thanks

As others have asked, what is his background in mathematics and physics?

What aspects of "quantum physics" does he want to learn? What is his goal?
Does he want to understand some of the foundational/philosophical aspects? Or does he want to understand how to solve certain problems ("particle in a box", "hydrogren atom", "quantum tunneling", etc..)?

Here's one that looked interesting to me (although I haven't gone through it yet) if I were to teach quantum mechanics again.

Understanding Quantum Physics: A User's Manual, Vol. 1
by Michael A. Morrison
[under the image of the bookcover, you can "look inside this book"]

An interesting "little book" is

QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter
by Richard Phillips Feynman

Another classic is

Feynman's Lectures on Physics vol. III.
 
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You might also take a look at "The Structure and Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics" by R.I.G. Hughes. I have a copy of this book and it is somewhat unique in that it occupies the middleground between the popularizations and the serious textbooks. That is, it explains just enough of the mathematics to get into serious discussions about the uncertainty principle and the EPR paradox, without going into all the rigorous detail that a physics major would be expected to know.


I just noticed that this same discussion is going on in one of the other forums, so check there for more advice:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=76795
 
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jma2001 said:
I take it you have no complaints about Shankar?

There are better books...


jma2001 said:
And what is your opinion of Sakurai?

In the same league with Gallindo & Pascual and Schwinger.Among the best.

jma2001 said:
The "good" thing about Griffiths QM text is that it is supposedly easier than the others (if any QM text can be said to be easy). The same sort of comparison is made between Griffiths' electrodynamics text and Jackson's. That is, Jackson is the standard but if you are having trouble with it you could turn to Griffiths for help. Same for QM, you start with Shankar or Sakurai but if they are over your head you could try Griffiths. Of course, all of this is assuming you have the necessary mathematical foundation (vector calculus, linear algebra, differential equations, etc.) to tackle any of these books in the first place.

Nope.I'd say Griffiths is undergraduate/introductory text,while Sakurai is a graduates-aimed text.

Daniel.
 
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dextercioby said:
I'd say Griffiths is undergraduate/introductory text,while Sakurai is a graduates-aimed text.

Daniel.
Agreed, I did not mean to imply that Griffiths is a substitute for a Sakurai-level text, just that it could be used as a stepping stone along the way.
 
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Sure,just as long as u watch out for some tricky exercises.On the other had,Sakurai's famous for its extremely difficult exercises,just like Merzbacher.

Daniel.
 
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Feynman's book is on QFT, which is not Quantum Mechanics per se, but it is an excallent book.
 
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"I'd say Griffiths is undergraduate/introductory text,while Sakurai is a graduates-aimed text."

But that should prevent anyone from picking up the book. I'm currently an undergraduate in physics and I did most of my learning of Quantum Mechanics from Sakurai and Shankar.

Griffiths wrote a pretty decent electrodynamics book and even though the QM book is reasonable, it's easy to find yourself kind of confused...it's like a Hilbert Space spanned by negative knowledge.
 
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If your husband has only a high school knowledge of math I would suggest Alice in Quantum world by gilmore.
 

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