Need help finding fermion energies and probabilities

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The discussion revolves around finding the energies and probabilities associated with two non-interacting fermions confined to a one-dimensional box. The original poster attempts to construct antisymmetric wave functions using the Slater determinant and compare the ground state energies of the singlet and triplet states.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the construction of wave functions and the evaluation of ground state energies for both singlet and triplet states. Questions arise regarding the integration of wave functions to find energies and the calculation of probabilities for the particles being at the same position.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the nature of the wave functions and the need for antisymmetry in the triplet state. There is an ongoing exploration of the lowest energy level for the triplet state, with a suggestion that integration may not be necessary for determining energies.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of antisymmetry in wave functions and the implications of spin states on the overall calculations. There is an acknowledgment of the need to consider both spatial and spin components when calculating probabilities.

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For two non-interacting fermions confined to a 1d box of length L. Construct the antisymmetric wave functions (Slater determinant) and compare ground state energies of two systems, one in the singlet state and the other in the triplet state. For both states, evaluate the probability of find the two particles at the same position. Here's what I have so far...

ψn(x) = √2/L*sin(πnx/L)
En = (h2π2))/2m * (n/L)2

Egrnd = E1 + E1 = 2E1 = (h2/m)(π/L)2
ψgrnd = ψ1(x11(x2)*1/√2(σ1↑σ2↓1↓σ2↑)

E1st = E1 + E2 = (5h2/m)(π/L)2
ψ1stsinglet = 1/√2 * ψ1(x12(x2)+ψ2(x11(x2) * 1/√2(σ1↑σ2↓1↓σ2↑)
ψ1sttriplet = 1/√2 * ψ1(x12(x2)-ψ2(x11(x2)
  • σ1↑σ2↑
  • 1/√2(σ1↑σ2↓1↓σ2↑)
  • σ1↓σ2↓
Any help would be appreciated.
 
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For the triplet state, the spatial wavefunction should be anit-symmetric.
 
That was supposed to be a minus. Thanks.

I need help
  • determining how to find the ground state energies of each of the systems (I think you integrate each of the wavefunctions...possibly?)
  • and also calculating the probability of finding the two particles at the same position
 
Each system means each of the singlet and triplet series independently. You have found the answer for the singlet series, now you are left with the triplet. What is the lowest energy level for triplet state? No need for integrating the wavefunctions.
The probability of finding the two particles at the same place is ##|\psi(x_1,x_1)|^2## but you also need to take the spin into account.
 

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