Need help to reverse engineer a problem...........................

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of reverse engineering a large number to find three or four digit factors that, when multiplied together, yield that number. The inquiry includes seeking a formula or method to achieve this, with an emphasis on the participant's lack of mathematical background.

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  • One participant requests assistance in finding three or four digit numbers that multiply to a specified large number, expressing uncertainty about mathematical terminology and methods.
  • Another participant suggests using a calculator or computer to factor the number, providing an example of prime factorization for the specified large number.
  • A later reply clarifies the terminology, noting that the result of multiplication is a product, not a sum, and emphasizes the complexity of factoring large numbers without computational assistance.
  • The original poster expresses confusion about algorithms and indicates a willingness to pay for assistance in understanding how to factor numbers.

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Participants generally agree that factoring large numbers is complex and typically requires computational tools. However, there is no consensus on a straightforward method or formula that can be easily applied by someone without a mathematical background.

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The discussion highlights the limitations of manual factorization methods and the reliance on technology for efficient algorithms, which may not be accessible to all participants.

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I hoping that someone may help me find a formula for this problem...

Starting with a specific, large-sum number (ex. 5,408,286,291),

find 4, three or four digit numbers that, when multiplied, will arrive at this large-sum number. It could
be 3 larger numbers or 4 smaller numbers. It doesn't matter really just as long as we arrive at the
final sum.

Since I'm not a math student, I'm hoping to find a formula that can accomplish this. I guess
this is basically doing multiplication backwards. I know it's probably a strange request but I figured
that someone on this forum would know now.

Thank you
Jayearl
 
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Hello, and welcome to MHB, jayearl!

I've moved your thread because this forum is a better fit for the topic of the thread.

Your best bet here is to use a calculator/computer to factor the number (doing so by hand could be very tedious), for example:

W|A - Factor 5,408,286,291

On that page, we find the prime factorization:

$$5,408,286,291=3^2\cdot61\cdot1049\cdot9391$$

So, if we wanted 4 factors, we could use:

$$5,408,286,291=9\cdot61\cdot1049\cdot9391$$

And if we wanted 3 factors:

$$5,408,286,291=549\cdot1049\cdot9391$$
 
Thank you for the assistance.
But I don't believe I explained myself well.
(again, I'm not a math-guy at all so I don't know where to start)

I would like to have 3 or 4 numbers (each with 3 or 4 digits) that, when multiplied, arrive at a specific sum.
ex. 469 X 102 X 309 X 910 = _______number that I first specify______ OR
2005 X 7311 X 3017 = _______number that I first specify_______

Everyday I'll start with a new 9-digit number. Then, I'll need to work backwards? to find the factors that arrive at this new, daily sum.

Is this more clear?
Thank you again for any assitance.
Jayearl
 
Just to clear up some terminology, when you multiply several numbers together you get a product, not a sum. A sum is the result of addition. :D

There is no easy method/formula for factoring large numbers in general...so the best method is to use a calculator/computer to run known efficient algorithms for spitting out the factorization.
 
I believe this is what I need to know how to do:
"so the best method is to use a calculator/computer to run known efficient algorithms for spitting out the factorization"

This is where I don't know what to do...I know even know what an algorithms is .. OR I would be willing to pay someone to figure this out for me.
 

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