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The discussion centers on calculating entropy changes in thermodynamics, specifically using the formula S = mc ln(Tf/Ti) to determine the total entropy change of a system involving two water masses at different temperatures. The participant successfully calculated the equilibrium temperature as 318 K and the total entropy change as 224.4 J/K. The confusion arises when applying the entropy change to determine energy unavailable for work, where the cold reservoir temperature is 273 K. It is clarified that the total entropy change accounts for all energy transfers, allowing its use in subsequent calculations despite differing temperatures.

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  • Understanding of thermodynamic principles, specifically entropy.
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Hey. This isn't exactly homework help. I'm studying for a test and i ran into this:

A) Find the equilibrium temperature that results when 1.8 kilograms of liquid water at 380 K is added to 3.0 kilograms of liquid water at 280 K in a perfectly insulated container.

I answer 318, no problem

B) When heat is added to or removed from a solid or liquid of mass m and specific heat capacity c, the change in entropy can be shown to be S = mc ln(Tf/Ti), where Ti and Tf are the initial and final Kelvin temperatures. Use this equation to calculate the entropy change for each amount of water. Then combine the two entropy changes algebraically to obtain the total entropy change of the universe. Note that the process is irreversible, so the total entropy change of the universe is greater than zero.

I answer 224.4, no problem

Now here is where the problem starts:

C) Assuming that the coldest reservoir at hand has a temperature of 273 K, determine the amount of energy that becomes unavailable for doing work because of the irreversible process.

I used 273*224.4 because Energy unavailable for doing work = T0∆S. and i get the right answer. But why can i use the change in entropy i found in the previous question?

The entropy found in B) came from completely different temperature changes. Why is it that i can use that entropy in C) where the cold reservoir is now 273K?

I don't know if I'm really making sense, :( this unit's been a mess for me.
 
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The entropy change you found in B) is the total entropy change of the universe. This means that it takes into account all energy transfers, regardless of the temperature of the reservoir. In C), you are simply using the same entropy change equation, but with different values for T0 and ∆S. The value of ∆S is the same because it is the total entropy change of the universe, but the T0 value is different because it is now 273 K (the coldest reservoir temperature).
 

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