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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function \( \frac{1}{\cos x} \), also known as secant. Participants are exploring different methods to approach this integration problem, with references to a scanned paper that contains the original attempt at a solution.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the potential confusion between integrating \( \frac{1}{\cos x} \) and \( \frac{1}{\cos^2 x} \). Some suggest using trigonometric identities and substitutions, while others question the appropriateness of certain methods due to potential division by zero issues.

Discussion Status

There are multiple lines of reasoning being explored, with some participants offering hints and suggestions for methods involving substitutions and trigonometric identities. However, there is no explicit consensus on a single approach, and participants are still seeking clarification and further elaboration on the methods discussed.

Contextual Notes

One participant notes a regional difference in terminology, indicating that they are unfamiliar with the term "sec" due to their location. Additionally, there are concerns about the validity of certain methods due to the potential for division by zero, which remains an open point of discussion.

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$1/cosx dx

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See the scanned paper

The Attempt at a Solution



See my scanned paper

[PLAIN]http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2892/img0003001.jpg
 
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An ordinary substitution won't do you any good in this problem.

1/cos(x) = sec(x). Do you know how to integrate that function?
 
Are you integrating
\frac{1}{\cos{x}}
or
\frac{1}{\cos^2{x}}
because in your first attempt you tried to integrate the first one, while in your second attempt you seem to be integrating the second.
 
Try the second method using sinx/sinx then use the substitution u =sinx and the trig identity
cos^2(x) = 1 -sin^2(x)
 
Mark44: We don't use sec x in sweden, so no i don't
LeonhardEuler: it's the first one
╔(σ_σ)╝: Hmm i could need some more elaboration on that method, I really need to get to solve this, but i won't be able to get in touch with my professor at the moment, and I live 60 kilometers from my uni :/
 
Riazy said:
Mark44: We don't use sec x in sweden, so no i don't
:smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile: LOL

╔(σ_σ)╝: Hmm i could need some more elaboration on that method, I really need to get to solve this, but i won't be able to get in touch with my professor at the moment, and I live 60 kilometers from my uni :/

Well,...
\int \frac{1}{cosx} \frac{sinx}{sinx} dx
Technically speaking, this is not a good idea since sinx or cosx could be zero and you have problems with division by zero. By I assume that the region in question doesn't cause this type of problems.

Now use the substitution u =sinx and show me what you get.
 
Here's a hint

\int \frac{dx}{\cos x} = \int \frac{\cos x}{\cos^2 x} {}dx = \int \frac{d(\sin x)}{1-\sin^2 x } = ...
 
The above suggestions is similar to mine but is actually a better suggestion. ^_^
 

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