Need help with a probability problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of a specific outcome occurring a certain percentage of the time in a series of events, specifically focusing on a scenario where outcome A has occurred 25% of the time in a previous sample of 200 events. Participants explore the implications of this probability over the next 24 occurrences.

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  • One participant seeks help in calculating the probability that outcome A will occur 75% or more of the time in the next 24 occurrences, given that it has occurred 25% of the time in a previous sample.
  • Another participant suggests using the binomial distribution with p(A) set to 1/4, noting that the previous trials provide a reasonable estimate of this probability.
  • A different participant questions how to account for changes in p(A) after each trial, suggesting that if subsequent trials yield outcome A, the probability estimate would increase.
  • Further elaboration includes a hypothetical scenario where the probability of outcome A is updated based on the results of the next trial, illustrating how the expected probability remains constant at 0.25 before running the next trial.

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Participants express differing views on how to handle the changing probability after each trial, indicating a lack of consensus on the best approach to calculate the desired probability.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the independence of trials and the implications of updating probabilities based on outcomes, which may affect the calculations discussed.

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Guys and girls, I need help calculating the probability of the following event happening (or feel free to just tell me the answer :smile: )

I know an event has two possible outcomes, let's call the outcome A and outcome B. I know that the desired outcome (let's call it A) has occurred 25% of the time over a sample size of 200 events.

What is the probability that A will occur 75% (or greater) of the time over the next 24 occurances of the event happening?

I have a basic understanding of probability but I'm having trouble wrapping my head around this.
 
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Use the binomial distribution with p(A)=1/4. Although you don't know p(A) exactly, 200 trials gives you a good estimate.
 
mathman said:
Use the binomial distribution with p(A)=1/4. Although you don't know p(A) exactly, 200 trials gives you a good estimate.

How do we account for the fact that after each additional trial p(A) changes. In this instance let's say trials 201-210 all yield the desired result. That being the case p(A) will increase after each of these trials.
 
Let's say you're wondering about the next 2 trials. For the next trial you predict "Heads" with probability 0.25, "Tails" with prob. 0.75. Let's say you have Heads. So you'd need to update 0.25 up to 51/201. But, let's say you have Tails. Then you'd need to update 0.25 down to 50/201.

Since you don't know whether you'll get Heads or Tails, you decide to calculate the "average" probability of Heads that you expect to have after the next trial, using the probabilities that you have currently (0.25 for Heads and 0.75 for Tails). The average probability that you can expect to have after your next trial is (51/201) x 0.25 + (50/201) x 0.75 = 50.25/201 = 0.25 exactly.

The interpretation is that before you run the next trial, all you can say is that you expect the probability of Heads to stay constant at 0.25. The same logic applies to the second-next trial, and so on...
 

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