Need help with a Very Hard Kinematics Qn

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The problem involves a tank moving at a constant speed while a missile is pursuing it, with the missile's direction always aimed at the tank. The scenario is set up geometrically, with specific positions and distances defined, leading to a question about the missile's acceleration at a given moment.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of acceleration and whether to consider linear or angular acceleration. Some suggest using relative coordinates and polar coordinates to analyze the motion, while others explore geometric relationships such as similar triangles.

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Multiple approaches have been presented, including the use of relative motion and geometric reasoning. Some participants have shared their calculations and results, but there is no explicit consensus on the methods or final outcomes. The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and alternative perspectives.

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There is uncertainty regarding the definitions of acceleration in this context, and participants are navigating through various interpretations of the problem setup and the relationships between the tank and missile's velocities.

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Imagine a tank traveling at constant speed v1 along direction AB and a missile is chasing the tank with constant speed v2. The direction of motion of the missile is always pointing toward the tank. At the t the tank is at position F and the missile is at position D, where FD is perpendicular to AB and FD = L. What is the acceleration of the missile at this instant?

A---------------F---------------B
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I have no clue, i have spent hours on this qn. I tried drawing the initial and final velocity vectors for the missile but i have no idea how to continue from there.

Thanks if anyone can help.

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Acceleration is a change in velocity with respect to time. The missle velocity relative to the tank is v2 - v1. There is no linear acceleration in this problem. Are you trying to solve for the angular acceleration?
 
Its best to use relative coordinates.
Lets fix our system to the tank, and use polar coordinates, so r will be the instantaneous distance between the missile and the tank, and \phi will be the angle between this and the initial position.
Our equations are then:

[tex]\dot r=v_2-v_1\sin\varphi[/tex]

and

[tex]r\dot\varphi=v_1\cos\varphi[/tex]

Now we know that the acceleration in polar coordinates is:

[tex]\vec a = (\ddot r -r\dot\varphi^2)\vec e_{r} + (2\dot r\dot\varphi + r\ddot\varphi)\vec e_{\varphi}[/tex]

Using the equations, calculate the acceleration, and after you are done put [tex]\varphi=0[/tex] and r=L, and you will get it at the beginning.

It turns out to be:

[tex]a=\frac{v_1v_2}{L}[/tex]

(I be wrong, because I just scribbled it up quickly... :D)
 
Thanks for the replies. I solved it using similar triangles and i got v1v2/L too.

My Solution is:

If there's a triangle drawn for the distance,

there's the adjacent with l and the opposite to be V1*dt

If there's a triangle for velocity,
The adjacent is V2, the opposite is a*dt
Then we get

V1dt/l = adt/V2
Simplifying,
a = V1V2/l

Thanks though :D
 

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