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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the expression \( x \cdot \left| \frac{1}{x} \right| \) as \( x \) approaches zero from the right. Participants are exploring the implications of absolute values and the behavior of the function near this limit.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the limit, questioning the behavior of \( \frac{1}{x} \) as \( x \) approaches zero from the right. There is confusion regarding the notation used for absolute values and whether it refers to the greatest integer function or the ceiling function.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the limit by considering the properties of absolute values and inequalities. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the notation, with some suggesting the use of the Squeeze Theorem to analyze the limit further.

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Participants mention a lack of familiarity with graphing techniques and express uncertainty about the definitions of the functions involved. There is also a reference to a specific calculus textbook from which the problem originates.

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Homework Statement


Limit x approached zero from right which is X * [|1/X|]

Homework Equations


Since i Don't know how to draw the graphs, then i don't have an equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried to drew the graphic, but from the graphs, I've concluded that lim x aprroached zero from right [|1/x|] does not exist because 1/0 = undefined.

Actually, the answer is 1, but still i don't know how to solve this.
So, guys, please help me up!Thanks
 
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ModalNekat said:

Homework Statement


Limit x approached zero from right which is X * [|1/X|]

Homework Equations


Since i Don't know how to draw the graphs, then i don't have an equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried to drew the graphic, but from the graphs, I've concluded that lim x aprroached zero from right [|1/x|] does not exist because 1/0 = undefined.

Actually, the answer is 1, but still i don't know how to solve this.
So, guys, please help me up!Thanks

Is this your limit:

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0 ^ {+}} \left( x \left| \frac{1}{x} \right| \right)[/tex]?

Well, the first thing when dealing with absolute value, is to take out all absolute signs.

You know that:

[tex]|a| = \left\{ \begin{array}{ll} a & \mbox{, if } a \geq 0 \\ -a & \mbox{, if } a < 0 \end{array} \right.[/tex]

So, when x tends to 0+, (i.e it tends to 0 from the right), is 1/x positive or negative? Can you break absolute signs?

After breaking (taking out) all the absolute signs, you should be arriving to the final answer shortly. :)
 
VietDao29 said:
Is this your limit:

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0 ^ {+}} \left( x \left| \frac{1}{x} \right| \right)[/tex]?

Well, the first thing when dealing with absolute value, is to take out all absolute signs.

You know that:

[tex]|a| = \left\{ \begin{array}{ll} a & \mbox{, if } a \geq 0 \\ -a & \mbox{, if } a < 0 \end{array} \right.[/tex]

So, when x tends to 0+, (i.e it tends to 0 from the right), is 1/x positive or negative? Can you break absolute signs?

After breaking (taking out) all the absolute signs, you should be arriving to the final answer shortly. :)
Whoops, I'm sorry for misunderstanding, looks like [| |] is not dealing with Greatest INteger Function. Then, what i mean with [|x|] is [[ x ]], sorry..
 
ModalNekat said:
Whoops, I'm sorry for misunderstanding, looks like [| |] is not dealing with Greatest INteger Function. Then, what i mean with [|x|] is [[ x ]], sorry..

You mean the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floor_and_ceiling_functions" , right? Or are you referring to the Floor Function?

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0 ^ {+}} \left( x \left\lceil \frac{1}{x} \right\rceil \right)[/tex]

If you really mean the Ceiling Function, then from its definition, we can derive to the following inequality:

[tex]\frac{1}{x} \leq \left\lceil \frac{1}{x} \right\rceil \leq \frac{1}{x} + 1[/tex]

Can you find the limit of the expression based on this inequality?
 
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I've always known [|x|] to be the greatest integer function, or floor function.
Are you saying it actually looks like [[x]] instead?
 
VietDao29 said:
You mean the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floor_and_ceiling_functions" , right? Or are you referring to the Floor Function?

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0 ^ {+}} \left( x \left\lceil \frac{1}{x} \right\rceil \right)[/tex]

If you really mean the Ceiling Function, then from its definition, we can derive to the following inequality:

[tex]\frac{1}{x} \leq \left\lceil \frac{1}{x} \right\rceil \leq \frac{1}{x} + 1[/tex]

Can you find the limit of the expression based on this inequality?
Yeah, i mean it's the ceiling function. Thanks a lot, right now it could be derived.Actually i got this problems from Purcell's Calculus Book, do u have one on you??
 
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what is the answer?
 
emyt said:
what is the answer?

Use the Squeeze Theorem on the inequality in post #4.
 
the interval between 1/x and 1/x + 1 is fairly large though?
 
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emyt said:
the interval between 1/x and 1/x + 1 is fairly large though?

Multiply through by x, then take the limit of each expression. Remember that x is not zero; the limit only examines the behavior of these expressions in arbitrarily small neighborhoods of 0. Use the Squeeze Theorem to imply the limit of the central expression.
 
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right, thanks
 

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