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Need help with Newton's Laws, basic Physics

  1. Mar 20, 2014 #1
    Hi,
    I am taking a highschool physics course, and there are a few points at which I am getting a bit of confusion.

    My first area of confusion relates to Newton's Laws. There are a few scenarios in which I am not clear as to the interaction of forces, etc.

    a) Exactly why does putting wheels/rollers/etc under a heavy object make it easier to move?
    since force due to friction is : f = u*Fn, where u is the coefficient of friction, Fn is weight.
    Looks like force due to friction is dependent only on weight and the coefficient of friction, not surface area which is in contact. What exactly makes it easier? Or is coefficient of friction dependent on surface area?

    b) Is the definition of Work (Work (Joules) = Force * distance, Joules = Newton * m) supposed to be intuitive? Since I don't really understand how "work" is defined in that way. I can work with the definition, but it's just that I cannot REALLY understand why it is so.

    Definition of work is : W = F * Δx, F = force, Δx = Distance. I just want to clarify this :
    Assuming a zero-friction environment, if I push an object with constant force, the object will continually accelerate.
    In order to produce work with an object for n meters, then, I assume I will need to push the object continually with constant force. This means I will have to keep going faster and faster. Is that right?

    My textbook has this question : "A refrigerator repairman pushes a refrigerator 75 cm horizontally to get access to the panel behind it. If the worker pushed horizontally and did 175 Joules of work, with what force did he push?".

    I assume that in this question, ignoring friction, then, that the repairman would have to push the fridge with constant force, thus giving it increasing velocity?

    I'm sorry if this seems overly basic... my book did not explain this very concisely.
    Would appreciate any input :)
    Thanks!

    Stephen
     
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  3. Mar 20, 2014 #2

    Philip Wood

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    (a) I think that rolling is quite a difficult idea. One essential point is that no work is done against friction, because there is no sliding.

    (b) I think you've asked a very good question about the definition of work. I don't think it is intuitive. A teacher or textbook needs to provide a motivation for the definition. Mine would be that you have to 'pay' when work is done, whereas you don't if the force isn't moving. For example, if you wanted to keep a heavy object 2 metres above the floor, you could keep it on a platform (for hundreds of years if you wanted) with no expenditure on any sort of fuel. But if you wanted to lift the object by a further distance, you couldn't do this without some sort of fuel (such as the chemical energy used when muscles operate).

    (c) Although you don't need to go into this in order to answer the question, I would imagine that the force exerted by the repairman is simply an equal and opposite force to the resistive force on the fridge. There will be a very small extra force needed to accelerate the refrigerator from rest to the very low speed at which he will slide it. When you calculate the work done, you take the force specified, that is the force exerted by the repairman, NOT the resultant force on the refrigerator (which is almost zero).
     
  4. Mar 20, 2014 #3

    A.T.

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    Friction coefficient is irrelevant in rolling, because there is no sliding. In rolling the resistance comes from deformation of wheel & surface, which causes the wheel to be rolling slightly "uphill" all the time. It’s not always easier than sliding. The rolling resistance can be higher than sliding friction in some cases.

    No, it supposed to be useful and consistent with other definitions of Energy.

    Yes

    It doesn't matter if it accelerates, or moves at constant speed with friction. The average force depends only on the distance and the work done.
     
  5. Mar 25, 2014 #4
    Thanks! That helped
     
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