How to Prove Zero Product Property for Rational Numbers?

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The discussion revolves around proving the Zero Product Property for rational numbers, specifically addressing the implications of the statement that if the product of two rational numbers a and b is zero, then at least one of them must be zero. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and proof techniques.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes to prove that if a=0 or b=0, then a*b=0, by assuming a=0 and showing that ab=0b=0.
  • Another participant questions the assumption that every non-zero rational has an inverse, suggesting that if both a and b are zero, the proof is straightforward, and if a is non-zero, then b must be zero.
  • A third participant states that since ab=0, either a=0 or, if a is not zero, then applying the multiplicative inverse leads to the conclusion that b=0.

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Participants present various approaches to the proof, but there is no explicit consensus on a single method or resolution of the proof steps. Multiple viewpoints on the assumptions and methods remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the properties of rational numbers and the existence of multiplicative inverses are discussed, but these are not universally accepted or resolved within the thread.

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Howdy, I just stumbled on this forum and was hoping someone could help with this proof:

If a and b are elements of the Rational Number set, then a*b=0, if and only if a=0 or b=0

With that in mind, I need to prove that:

  • Prove that if a=0 or b=0, then a*b=0
  • Prove that if a*b=0, then a=0 or b=0

Any help is appreciated, cheers.
 
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a) One can assume, without loss of generality, that a = 0. Then for any b, we have that ab = 0b = (0 + 0)b = 0b + 0b. Subtract 0b from both sides and you'll find that 0b - 0b = 0b, or equivalently 0b = 0.

b) Can we assume that every non-zero rational has an inverse? If both a and b are zero, then we are done. Suppose a is non-zero. Then b = 0*a^-1 = 0. The same argument can be repeated if b is non-zero.
 
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One of the "axioms" or defining properties of the rational numbers is that every rational number, except 0, has a multiplicative inverse.

Given that ab= 0, either
1) a= 0 in which case we are done, or

2) a is not 0, in which case a-1(ab)= a-10 or b= 0.
 
Thanks for the help!
 

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