Need to find a good book for speaking formal English

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The discussion revolves around finding resources to help second language English learners speak formally in scientific contexts, such as seminars and online discussions. Participants suggest books and programs that could aid in improving formal English communication skills.

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  • One participant asks for recommendations for books that assist in speaking formally in scientific settings.
  • Another participant suggests "English for Academic Correspondence and Socializing" by Adrian Wallwork as a suitable resource.
  • Some participants agree that watching recorded seminars can provide insights into different presentation styles and improve speaking skills.
  • There is a recommendation to explore Toastmasters groups for practice in giving presentations and receiving feedback, with one participant sharing personal positive experiences from a similar program.
  • A side note mentions considering the speaker's native language background when learning from presentations.

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Participants generally agree on the value of the suggested book and the benefits of Toastmasters for improving formal English speaking skills. However, there are no explicit disagreements noted in the discussion.

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Some suggestions depend on the availability of local or online resources, and the effectiveness of watching seminars may vary based on individual learning preferences.

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Second language English learners, educators in language acquisition, and individuals seeking to improve their formal communication skills in scientific contexts.

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Could anyone introduce a good book thet help second language English learners to speak formally in scientific position? I mean a book that learn how to ask and talk with other persons in a scientific position like seminars, online discussion and so on in a formal manner?

Is it as good book for start?

English for Academic Correspondence and Socializing by Adrian Wallwork
 
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English for Academic Correspondence and Socializing by Adrian Wallwork
That does look to be a good match for what you are looking for...

https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9781441994011

It seems relatively inexpensive at $15 for paperback, so it's probably worth giving it a try. Also, since many seminars are recorded, it seems like you could get a lot out of just watching a number of presentations from seminars in areas of science that you have an interest. You will see different presentation styles, and you could even pause the video at some points and repeat back what you have heard.
 
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Also, check to see if there is a "Toastmasters" group near you (I think there are also online versions available now during the Pandemic):

https://www.toastmasters.org/

They provide a great way to practice giving presentations and talks and speeches and getting constructive feedback on how to improve your presentations. I was part of a similar program back in my high school days, and it was very helpful in getting me to feel more comfortable giving presentations and talks to groups of all sizes. I highly recommend that you look into Toastmasters and similar programs. :smile:
 
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Also, check to see if there is a "Toastmasters" group near you (I think there are also online versions available now during the Pandemic):

https://www.toastmasters.org/

They provide a great way to practice giving presentations and talks and speeches and getting constructive feedback on how to improve your presentations. I was part of a similar program back in my high school days, and it was very helpful in getting me to feel more comfortable giving presentations and talks to groups of all sizes. I highly recommend that you look into Toastmasters and similar programs. :smile:
Thanks. I haven't heard about that. It seems good and help to improve my english more quickly.
 
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berkeman said:
That does look to be a good match for what you are looking for...

https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9781441994011

It seems relatively inexpensive at $15 for paperback, so it's probably worth giving it a try. Also, since many seminars are recorded, it seems like you could get a lot out of just watching a number of presentations from seminars in areas of science that you have an interest. You will see different presentation styles, and you could even pause the video at some points and repeat back what you have heard.

A side note to this excellent advice is that you may want to check if the speaker is from a country that has English as a native language.
 
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