Need to find final Height, Equation not Working

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving projectile motion, specifically focusing on calculating the final height of an object given initial conditions and time. The original poster presents their known variables and attempts to use a kinematic equation to find the final height.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the equation Sf = S0 + V0Δt for the y-component but finds their result significantly different from the expected answer. They seek clarification on why their approach did not yield the correct result.
  • Some participants suggest using a different kinematic equation that accounts for gravitational effects, indicating a need for understanding when to apply each equation.
  • Questions arise regarding the conditions under which the original equation is applicable and the implications of gravity on the motion being analyzed.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different kinematic equations and their applicability to the problem. There is a recognition of the importance of gravity in projectile motion, and some guidance has been provided regarding the appropriate equations to use. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions made in the original equation used by the poster, particularly regarding its applicability to vertical motion under the influence of gravity. The participants are also considering the distinction between horizontal and vertical components of motion.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


The kinematic equations--namely, Sf = S0 + V0Δt

The Attempt at a Solution


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I am a bit confused as it seems this problem is very straight-forward.
My known variables:
X0 = 0m
Y0 = 1.7m
Δt = 3.92s
V0 = 29m/s
Θ = 60ο
Yf = ?

So, I just use the above equation for the y-component:

Yf = Y0 + V0y(Δt)

Yf = 1.7m + 29sin(60) * 3.92s

My final answer is in the hundreds, but the correct answer is 24.85m. Can someone steer me in the right direction, and also tell me why the equation I used doesn't work?

Thanks so much!
 

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Okay, I solved the problem by using Δy = V0yt + 1/2(a)(t2)

My only question, then, is why doesn't the other equation I used work? And when should I use that other equation?

Thanks.
 
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You should use the form d=(vi)(t)+1/2(g)(t)^2, because you have to take into account that gravity will affect the height reached over the time period.
 
Lapse said:
Okay, I solved the problem by using Δy = V0yt + 1/2(a)(t2)

My only question, then, is why doesn't the other equation I used work? And when should I use that other equation?

Thanks.
I think it's because your equation assumes that the object travels in a linear path without the affect of gravity.
 
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Zack K said:
You should use the form d=(vi)(t)+1/2(g)(t)^2, because you have to take into account that gravity will affect the height reached over the time period.

Understood. So would the other equation only be used for finding horizontal distance since gravity doesn't affect the x-component?​
 
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Understood. So would the other equation only be used for finding horizontal distance since gravity doesn't affect the x-component?​
Exactly :)
 

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