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The discussion focuses on negating the statement "Only some of the students of the class are here today." Participants explore whether the negation could be interpreted as "either no students are in class or all students are in class." There is a debate on how to express the original statement in logical form, with suggestions to define "some" for clarity. The impact of removing "only" is also examined, with interpretations suggesting that it alters the meaning. Overall, the conversation highlights the ambiguity in language and the challenges in formalizing such statements logically.
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Homework Statement


Negate the following: Only some of the students of the class are here today.

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Is the negation of this statement that either no students are in class or all students are in class?
How would I write the original statement in logical form?
Finally, would the original statement change at all if we removed the "only?"
 
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My interpretation is, that only some means not all but at least two, and some alone would mean possibly all, but this is tricky and by no means unambiguous. Langauge usually isn't 100% clear. How would you write the original statement in logical form?
 
Define "some" and we can talk. Otherwise, this is an ambiguous question.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
Is the negation of this statement that either no students are in class or all students are in class?
Yes, in my opinon.

How would I write the original statement in logical form?
You could try writing your answer and then negating it.

Finally, would the original statement change at all if we removed the "only?"

In this context, I interpret the "only" to mean "not all", so, yes, it would change the interpretation provided we don't interpret "some" to imply "not all" by itself.

However, as others have said, there are subjective aspects to interpreting the original statement..
 
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