Net Work Done by an Accelerating Brick

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The problem involves a 12 kg brick moving along the x-axis, with its acceleration described as a function of position. The task is to determine the net work done on the brick as it moves from x = 0 to x = 5.2 m, using the provided acceleration graph.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to integrate the force rather than using a simple work formula due to non-constant acceleration. There are attempts to derive the force as a function of position based on the acceleration graph, with some uncertainty about the correct application of integration and the dot product for work.

Discussion Status

Several participants have offered insights on deriving the force from acceleration and integrating it to find work. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct functional forms for acceleration and force, with some participants expressing confusion about specific calculations and the integration process.

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Participants note the importance of correctly interpreting the acceleration graph and its implications for force. There is mention of testing values to verify the derived functions, indicating a focus on ensuring accuracy in the setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A 12 kg brick moves along an x axis. Its acceleration as a function of its position is shown in Fig. 7-37. What is the net work performed on the brick by the force causing the acceleration as the brick moves from x = 0 to x = 5.2 m?
http://edugen.wiley.com/edugen/courses/crs4957/art/qb/qu/c07/fig07_37.gif


Homework Equations


W=integral from xo to x Fxdx + integral yo to y Fydy...

The Attempt at a Solution



Since acceleration isn't constant we can't use W=Fd, so:
Statement of known values:
xo= 0 m
x=5.2 m
m=12 kg
a(5.2)=13 ms-2 (from the graph.. determined by 4m/10ms-2=5.2m/x)
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Unknown/want to find:
Wnet


So using the integral formula (can we assume it's only moving in the x direction?)

W=[integral]F(x)Δx

I'm at a loss though, in the example done in class, he broke the forces up into components, but I can't really do that here since acceleration isn't constant and force is what I'm solving for...
 
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"A 12 kg brick moves along an x axis". So it's one dimensional motion and you won't need components.

You may not be able to use w = f*d, but you can always integrate dw = f dot dx.

The acceleration graph appears to be a straight line, so you should be able to write an equation for the force as a function of x without too much difficulty.
 
gneill said:
"A 12 kg brick moves along an x axis". So it's one dimensional motion and you won't need components.

You may not be able to use w = f*d, but you can always integrate dw = f dot dx.

The acceleration graph appears to be a straight line, so you should be able to write an equation for the force as a function of x without too much difficulty.

I'm rather uncertain on how to use the dot product formula correctly for work, but here's a shot:

From the graph, a(x)=2x/5
v(x)=x2/5
s(x)=x3/15

so then the formula to find work done is
W=integral xo to x of x3/15 dx ?

So W= x4/60 - xo4/60
W= (5.2)4/60 - (0)4/60
W=12.19 Joules?
 
You'll want to check the formula you got for the acceleration versus x. If you plug in x=4 you should get a = 10 m/s2.

With the acceleration a(x), you can write the expression for the force by using Newton's second law (f = m*a). That force is what you'll integrate from x = 0 to x = 5.2m.

[tex]W = \int_0^{5.2m} f(x) \cdot dx[/tex]
 
gneill said:
You'll want to check the formula you got for the acceleration versus x. If you plug in x=4 you should get a = 10 m/s2.

With the acceleration a(x), you can write the expression for the force by using Newton's second law (f = m*a). That force is what you'll integrate from x = 0 to x = 5.2m.

[tex]W = \int_0^{5.2m} f(x) \cdot dx[/tex]


I don't think I follow why you chose x=4meters, but if you do that and use Newton's second law,

F=(12kg)(10ms-2)=120N

So [tex]W = \int_0^{5.2m} 120 \cdot dx[/tex]

W= 120x-120xo= 120(5.2)-120(0)= 624 Joules ?
 
No no no. The point is to get acceleration as a FUNCTION of x: a(x). Then, from that you can get force as a function of x: F(x). Then you can integrate the function F(x) to get the total work done. The force is NOT constant.

gneill was just saying that you should plug in a test value (for EXAMPLE x = 4) to check and see if your a(x) is correct.
 
cepheid said:
No no no. The point is to get acceleration as a FUNCTION of x: a(x). Then, from that you can get force as a function of x: F(x). Then you can integrate the function F(x) to get the total work done. The force is NOT constant.

gneill was just saying that you should plug in a test value (for EXAMPLE x = 4) to check and see if your a(x) is correct.

Ohhh, so I would use the equation of the line from the graph of acceleration vs displacement

a(x)=(5/2)x
(to test) a(x)=(5/2)(4)=10

F(x)=ma(x)=(12kg)(2.5)(x)= 30x

[tex]W = \int_0^{5.2m} f(x) \cdot dx[/tex] =[tex]W = \int_0^{5.2m} 30x \cdot dx[/tex]

W=15x2-15xo2 =15(5.2)2-30(0)=405.6 Joules
 
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emmy said:
Ohhh, so I would use the equation of the line from the graph of acceleration vs displacement

a(x)=(5/2)x
(to test) a(x)=(5/2)(4)=10

F(x)=ma(x)=(12kg)(2.5)(x)= 30x

[tex]W = \int_0^{5.2m} f(x) \cdot dx[/tex] =[tex]W = \int_0^{5.2m} 30x \cdot dx[/tex]

W=15x2-15xo2 =15(5.2)2-30(0)=405.6 Joules

Yeah, that looks much better.
 
cepheid said:
Yeah, that looks much better.

Amazing! Thank you both very much! The dot product for work makes a ton and a half more sense now :biggrin:
 

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