Neuron Electrical Model, time constant

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The discussion centers on the electrical model of a neuron, specifically the calculation of the time constant, represented as tau = C*(Rm*Rs)/(Rm+Rs). This formula indicates that the resistors Rm (membrane resistance) and Rs (series resistance) are treated as being in parallel, despite initial confusion suggesting they are in series. The participant seeks clarification on the time constant's derivation and the relationship between two circuit diagrams presented in their lecture, one depicting a voltage source and the other a current source.

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Hi all,
I'm trying to understand the electrical model of a neuron, and I have 2 questions.

I'm a little confused about the time constant in this electrical model of neuron recording:
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The time constant shown is tau = C*(Rm*Rs)/(Rm+Rs), which implies that the resistors are in parallel. However, to me, it looks like the resistors are in series. I feel like I'm missing something here.

First question: Why is the time constant C*(Rm*Rs)/(Rm+Rs) rather than C*(Rm+Rs)?

To make matters worse, earlier in the lecture this circuit was shown, implying the resistor represented membrane resistance: (ignore the values)
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There is a current source here.
In the first picture, the diagram is using a voltage source. The second diagram is the same thing as a series RC circuit with a voltage source, just using a source transformation (I think). I looked up parallel RC circuits (with a voltage source) and found they had very different properties than series RC circuits. Note: The first picture seems to show a voltage clamp, while the second was just a general model. Might or might not change things.

Second Question: How can I reconcile these two diagrams?

What's a correct neuron model?

Thanks.

Edit: Some of the information I was given could be erroneous; i.e. I don't trust the lecture slides.
 
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I'm guessing I might have been unclear. So I'll just ask one question:

What's the time constant of this circuit?

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