Neutral electron gas in galaxy halo?

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The discussion centers around the theoretical existence of neutral electrons (ne) in the galaxy's halo, exploring their properties, potential decay processes, and implications for astrophysical observations. The conversation touches on concepts from particle physics, cosmology, and theoretical models, particularly Heim's mass formula.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that neutral electrons (ne) could exist in the galaxy's halo and decay into electrons or positrons under certain conditions, such as interactions with atomic nuclei.
  • Another participant questions the theoretical basis for the decay of a neutral electron into charged particles, raising concerns about lepton conservation and the implications of such a decay.
  • It is suggested that if neutral electrons can form degenerated matter, they might lead to the existence of ne-stars and associated gamma-ray bursts in the halo.
  • Participants discuss the potential for extra absorption in gamma rays near 1 MeV due to pair production of neutral electrons and positrons.
  • There is speculation about soft X-ray emissions resulting from the decay of neutral electrons and their interactions with other matter or cosmic rays.
  • One participant notes that the standard model recognizes only neutrinos as neutral leptons, which are much lighter than electrons, raising questions about the proposed neutral electron's properties.
  • Concerns are raised about the conditions under which neutral electrons might decay or be formed, suggesting that there could be areas in space where these particles might exist undetected.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence and properties of neutral electrons, with no consensus reached on their theoretical implications or the validity of Heim's mass formula in predicting such particles.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights uncertainties regarding the decay mechanisms of neutral electrons, the assumptions underlying Heim's mass formula, and the lack of experimental evidence for such particles in high-energy labs.

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i was thinking this for few days

suppose glouds of neutral particles ne (m=0,5Mev) exists in galaxys halo. ne would easily decay
to electron or positron near atoms nucleus or if its disturbed some way. (so it wouldn't be found
in high energy lab) - ne could be produced only by direct pair prodution .
if ne can form degenerated matter then there might be also degenerated "ne-stars".

i am suggesting this ne because heim's mass formula predicts such particle.
M(ne)=0,5167049Mev

so therefore:
-there should be extra absorption in gamma rays near 1Mev due to pair production of nelectron
and antine.
-there should be (weak?) soft x-ray source between 1-5Kev due to ne-decay (possibly interacting with other matter or with cosmic rays)
(maximum depends on typical neutrino's energy) in halo
-if ne's degenerates there should be ne-stars and gamma ray burst source (forming ne-stars) in
halo
-there should be some emission from Ne particles colliding with each other or with matter like stars and gas
- there should be electron impact ionization near halo because ne-decay produces
electrons
-in high energy collisions there could be small time when nelectrons exist before they
decay (near nucleus)
 
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What are ne?
 
ne would easily decay to electron or positron near atoms nucleus or if its disturbed some way.
By what theory or model does one assume a neutral electron (ne) of 0,5167049 Mev would decay into a e- or e+ with rest energy of 0.511. That would require a + or - particle and perhaps a third neutral particle. What about lepton conservation?
 
ne is (theoretical) neutral electron, which is lepton without charge.

in normal conditions such decay wouldn't happen spontanously, it would need some kind of trigger, like collision with nucleus or gamma ray.
 
In the standard model the only neutral leptons are neutrinos, which are much lighter than electrons.
 
about charge conservation of ne-decay in nucleus, the electron could steal its charge from nucleus

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heim's mass formula predicts elementary particles masses, lifetimes and fine structure
constant. i can't say exactly how much it has extrapolation since the math
is quite complicated

heim's formula predicts such particle, but (i think) it doesn't tell does
it decay, this is an assumption.

if the formula has really some deeper meaning to particle physics,
something must have happened to neutral electron. otherwise it would have
been seen in lab.
for example:
-something may prevent it from forming or it will decay in nucleus somehow before it can escape.

if later is true, then if there have been still particle formation processes
which produce ne, there must be some areas in space where these particles
have been saved.

as to my knowledge there could be ne- gas in galaxy halo. depending to ne properties, there also must then be some 'traces' it leaves.

the question could these objects
exists in galactic halo in basis of observations. does it fit?
or what kind of objects could fit observations?

here are found some basics of heim's particle theory
http://www.heim-theory.com/Contents/Introduction_to_Heim_s_Mass-Fo/introduction_to_heim_s_mass-fo.html
 
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