New Feynman Rules in QED from Counterterms

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The discussion revolves around the renormalization of Quantum Electrodynamics (QED), specifically focusing on the interpretation of new Feynman rules derived from counterterms. Participants explore the meaning of symbols in Feynman diagrams and the necessity of renormalization conditions, addressing both theoretical and conceptual aspects of the topic.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the meaning of the small circle with a cross in Feynman diagrams, referencing Peskin & Schroeder.
  • Another participant asserts that the circles represent the counter-terms themselves.
  • A participant seeks clarification on whether the counter-term representation includes all contributions taken into account.
  • Discussion includes the need for renormalization conditions to determine the counterterms, specifically how the physical mass relates to the bare mass and the counterterm.
  • Further elaboration suggests that the black circle for the interaction vertex represents the counter-term to all orders, with specific contributions depending on the order of perturbation theory being considered.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express some agreement on the role of counterterms and renormalization conditions, but there remains uncertainty regarding the precise interpretation of the symbols in the Feynman diagrams and their implications in calculations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the interpretations of the counter-term representations or the implications of renormalization conditions, leaving these aspects open for further exploration.

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Readers interested in advanced topics in quantum field theory, particularly those studying renormalization in QED, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi,

I have been looking at the renormalisation of QED and been using Peskin & Schroeder. I understand (I think) what is going on, but I am slightly confused over 2 issues:

1. In the new feynman rules from the counterterms, the feynman diagrams all have a small circle with a cross in them...what do these represent? (P&S p332, fig 10.4)

2. why do we need the renormalization conditions? (P&S p331-331 eq 10.40)

Help would be much appreciated!

Thanks
 
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For question 1., the circles represent the counter-terms themselves.

For question 2., the renormalization conditions are required to fix the counterterms. For example the bare mass in the Lagrangian is m_{0}. We split this into the physical mass and the counterterm, m_{0} = m + \delta m. However you need the figure out what \delta m should be so that the physical mass is m. The physical mass being m means that \Sigma(m^{2}) = 0. This provides you with the equation you need to obtain \delta m.
 
Thanks for clearing up question 2, but as for question 1, by "representing the counterterms themselves" do you mean that it represents all the contributions that are taken into account?
 
blackie1008 said:
Thanks for clearing up question 2, but as for question 1, by "representing the counterterms themselves" do you mean that it represents all the contributions that are taken into account?
The black circle with for the interaction vertex represents \delta \lambda to all orders. At a given order of perturbation theory it can only stand for \delta \lambda to that order or less. For instance let's say you were computing at third order, you could have a diagram with one normal interaction vertex and one counter-term interaction vertex, the counter-term vertex will contain the counter-term to second order, so you will get \lambda from the usual vertex and \lambda^{2} from the counter-term vertex, giving you a third order contribution.
 
Ahhh ok think I have got it now!

Thanks for the help, its much appreciated!
 

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