New to Pro/E Modelling - Creating a Crane Arm

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The discussion revolves around modeling a crane arm using Pro/E software, focusing on techniques for creating complex shapes and preparing models for analysis in ANSYS. Participants share their experiences and suggestions for tackling the modeling challenge.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in modeling a crane arm and seeks guidance on where to start, mentioning their experience with simpler models.
  • Another participant suggests that separating the crane arm into different parts and modeling them individually could be beneficial, drawing from their experience with similar software.
  • A third participant proposes using primitive tools to create cylinders for the crane arm, or alternatively, creating points and lines to sweep a circular cross-section for a truss-like structure.
  • One participant warns against using solid models for ANSYS computations, recommending the use of BEAM elements instead and providing specific steps for creating the model in ANSYS.
  • A more experienced user shares their extensive background with Pro/E and offers advice on creating individual parts, starting with an extrusion for the overall shape, and suggests methods for creating specific features like the hook and treads.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple approaches to modeling the crane arm, with no consensus on the best method. Some emphasize the importance of separating parts and using specific modeling techniques, while others caution against certain practices for analysis in ANSYS.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention challenges related to constraints in assembly and the suitability of different modeling techniques for analysis purposes, indicating potential limitations in their approaches.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals new to Pro/E or similar CAD software, those interested in modeling complex structures, and users preparing models for finite element analysis in ANSYS may find this discussion beneficial.

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Greetings Engineers

I am relatively new to pro/e modelling. Most of the solids I have created till date using pro/e have been simple ones using mostly the extrude or revolve tool.

I am presented with a problem as I try to create a more complex model of a crane arm ( similar to the arm in - http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww309/M3T2009/Transformers_2009_120.jpg - without the hook) I would really appreciate it if someone who has any ideas on how to model this could guide me in the right direction because I have no idea where to start from.

Thanks!
 
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I have no experience with pro/e, but I've been using solidworks a bit. From what I've heard, they have a quite similair UI.

If you Dont know how to approche the problem because of the software i'd advise You to look at some tutorials. From my experience its easyer to model complexe things if you have seen (done) the prosess a few times.

For this model i'd separate the different parts (identify how many different there are), model them individually and assemble them all together.

Please excuse my spelling.
- Andreas
 
The crane arm is composed basically just of tube. So, you can use your primitive tool to create cylinders, using a boolean at the endpoints. Another approach would be to create points at the intersections and lines between them. Then sweep over the lines with a circular cross-section to create the truss.
 
@Andreas - Thanks for your reply.
I've been spending quite a bit of time on the tutorials, I'm afraid they're not of much help. I took your advice though and tried to assemble the parts separately but I'm not able to constrain the members completely. By the looks of it, the assembly is fine but I'm afraid i will face problems when I use the model for analysis in ANSYS. @minger - Thanks for the reply, but what do you mean by your first suggestion - about the arm consisting basically just of tube??
 
Oh God, don't use a solid model for an ANSYS computation. As I mentioned, your main boom is not much more of a truss. Use BEAM elements in ANSYS. At each joint, create a keypoint, and then lines between them. Create the proper cross-sections via SECTYPE, and SECDATA. Then simply LMESH the lines to create it. View it with /ESHAPE,1 to make sure everything looks fine.
 
I have been using ProE for over 10 years, and have a great deal of experience importing models into ANSYS (both classic and workbench).

I'm curious what your issue is...what specifically is the problem?

-Start by creating each section as an individual part
-For someone new to ProEngineer, it is very expedient to create an Extrusion as the first feature, giving the over-all envelope. All additional features can be extrustions that remove material to get you close to the shape you need
-For the hook, start by creating a Sketch showing the shape, then create a swept protrusion
-For the treads, create one instance of any of the features, then pattern
 

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