Newton law, An object hanged with a robe that has a weight.

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The problem involves an object with a mass of 50 kg suspended by a wire weighing 12.2 kg. The primary question is regarding the tension in the rope (or wire) under the influence of gravity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of tension and question whether the mass of the wire is concentrated at one end or distributed along its length. There is consideration of how this distribution affects tension at different points along the wire.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of the wire's mass distribution on tension. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between tension at different points along the wire, but there is no explicit consensus on the exact requirements of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty about whether the problem requires the maximum or minimum tension, and participants are clarifying terminology, such as the use of "robe" instead of "rope." The original poster has noted that the question simply asks for the tension in the rope.

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Homework Statement


An object 50kg is hanged with a wire that wights 12,2kg


Homework Equations


what's the tension in the robe


The Attempt at a Solution


W - T = 0
(50+12,2)* 9,81 = 0
T = 610.182 N
 
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chawki said:

Homework Statement


An object 50kg is hanged with a wire that wights 12,2kg


Homework Equations


what's the tension in the robe


The Attempt at a Solution


W - T = 0
(50+12,2)* 9,81 = 0
T = 610.182 N

Is the mass of the wire all located at the 50kg object end, or is it evenly distributed along the length of the wire? If it is distributed, do you think this might affect the tension with respect to position along the wire?
 
It is distributed.
 
chawki said:
It is distributed.

Then you'll have to take that into account and develop an expression that yields the tension with respect to position along the wire. Or do you just need the maximum or minimum tensions?
 
I' not sure, they just asked what's the tension in the robe.
I think the tension at both edges of the robe is the same?
 
chawki said:
I' not sure, they just asked what's the tension in the robe.
I think the tension at both edges of the robe is the same?

Presumably by "robe" you mean "rope"? And this rope is really the same as the wire mentioned in the problem statement?

Consider a rope hanging under gravity from a fixed point. The top of the rope has to hold up the weight of the entire rope below it. The middle of the rope only has to hold up the half of the rope that is below it. The very bottom of the rope has nothing below it, so it does not have to hold up anything. What is the relationship between the magnitudes of the tensions at these three locations?
 
Tension in string is constant if rope is massless

But here the mass is distributed so tension is different at different points of rope

at which point do u exactly need tension??
 

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